On 16 January 2014 21:34, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 15 Jan 2014, at 20:40, meekerdb wrote: > > On 1/15/2014 12:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > And the answer is "yes, he would know that, but not immediately". > > So it would not change the indeterminacy, as he will not immediately see > that he is in a simulation, but, unless you intervene repeatedly on the > simulation, or unless you manipulate directly his mind, he can see that he > is in a simulation by comparing the comp physics ("in his head") and the > physics in the simulation. > The simulation is locally finite, and the comp-physics is necessarily > infinite (it emerges from the 1p indeterminacy on the whole UD*), so, soon > or later, he will bet that he is in a simulation (or that comp is wrong). > > > > But if it is sufficiently large he won't find it is finite. > > > Hmm... OK. But he will soon or later. We are talking "in principle", > assuming the emulated person has all the time ... > > Ah, yes, I thought that must be what you meant. Had we but world enough and time, this coyness, lady were no crime.
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