Dear LizR,
On Sat, Jan 11, 2014 at 5:01 AM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 11 January 2014 20:56, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Der Bruno, >> >> The UD has no output. I guess you think to the trace of the UD, UD*, >> which from the first person perspective is "entirely given", by the 1p >> delay invariance." >> >> The UD never stops. If a process lasts forever, it is eternal, then >> it does not ever complete and thus its results never obtain in any way that >> can be considered as accessible. >> >> This is true if you run the UD on a computer, but not if it exists in > Platonia. If the UD exists in an arithmetical wonderland, then it never > stops, nor does it ever start, nor does it do anything - it's simply there, > in a timeless realm. Assuming this is so, then time - or the appearance of > time - has to be recovered from the fact of its existence. > I understand that argument. But then we have to account for the infinite pluralities of times that are eternally co-present in that Platonia when there is no way to break the stalemate of neutrality. Becoming is a better candidate for the ontological ground since it includes potential at the root, potential would be then the "fire" that breaks the symmetry that would otherwise keep Platonia frozen stiff. > > -- > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

