On Sat, Dec 28, 2013 at 10:23 PM, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Brent, > > No, reality just makes a random choice, that's the computation made. > How can a computation make a random choice? Jason > But the difference between reality math and human QM math is that reality > actually makes an actual choice, whereas human QM math just gives us the > probabilities of choices. > > Big difference. Reality does the computation, human math doesn't. > > Edgar > > > > > On Saturday, December 28, 2013 8:39:43 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: >> >> On 12/28/2013 5:00 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote: >> > Brent, >> > >> > What we need to understand here is that the actual equations of reality >> math that >> > compute reality DO produce exact results. They have to because events >> actually happen. >> > But the human math equations of decoherence etc. only produce >> probabilistic results. >> >> Right. So are you saying there is some 'hidden math', like hidden >> variables, or t'Hooft's >> ultradeterminism, or Bohm's universal potential, that secretly determines >> which of the >> probabilities predicted by our QM is actually realized? Is it in >> principle possible for >> us to find this reality math or is it forever hidden? >> >> Brent >> >> >> > This is a good example of how reality math and human math are >> different. The >> > Omnes/Everett interpretations mistakenly apply only to the human >> equations which are >> > just descriptions, not actuators. E.g. Everett assumes that the human >> quantum equations >> > somehow calculate reality but they don't, and therefore he falsely >> assumes an >> > interpretation of the human math equations has something to do with >> reality but it >> > doesn't. Therefore they have nothing to do with actual reality and in >> particular MWI >> > doesn't apply to the actual math of reality and thus doesn't apply to >> actual reality. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
