On 30 November 2013 05:02, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: Liz, I disagree. The atheists say "the definition of Earth ("God") in the > sacred text is an infinite plane (fairy tale). We know there is no infinite > plane below us, (we disbelief fairy tales) thus we correct our theory of > Earth (God): Earth (God) doesn't exist. > > That this, the atheists credit some text for the definition of God, and > abandon the whole idea, or possible reality, because they find some theory > wrong. And by doing so, they continue to credit the authoritative > arguments. And in passing they impose implicitly their own theology > (Matter). > > God, in the original platonist theoretical conception is basically the > reason/cause of the everything which exists in some or other senses. > Atheists says it is Matter. > > Many atheists believes that there is a material universe, and that it is > all there is. Their God, in the platonist sense, is Matter, and they might > be true. > > But you don't need to believe in any fairy tale to doubt Matter, and so > the physical universe might have a deeper cause or reason, and indeed with > computationalism the cause is "just" the arithmetical truth, which makes > the universal number sharing deep computations, with a measure we can > compare with the facts (using Theaetetus' definition of knowledge). > > If we don't put the theological in perspective, it will be hard to even > compare the atheist aristotelian theology (Nature, Mater, is the God) and > Platonism: (Nature and Matter emerge from, or emanate from, or is created > by, or is the shadow of, or (in comp): is the global FPI first person > plural projection, from *something else* (with comp: arithmetical truth). > > The problem of some atheists and materialist is that they confuse physics > and theology. They forget that they *assume* a physical reality. They too > commit an act of faith, by making the object of physics the explanation of > everything. They reason correctly in the frame of that assumption, but to > do theology scientifically, you need to remind that it is an assumption, > just to see other rational conception of reality possible. >
Very clearly put. I do think that atheists believe what I said they believe, mainly because I've read quotes from them saying as much - however you are quite right, they then forget that they have a metaphysical belief. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
