In string theory compact dimensions support arithmetic,
which in turn supports the evolution of life and dreams.
Richard

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 2:03 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 17 Oct 2012, at 10:12, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
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> Life may support mathematics.
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> Arithmetic may support life. It is full of life and dreams.
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> Life is a computation devoted to making guesses about the future in order to
> self preserve . This is only possible in a world where natural computers are
> possible: in a world where the phisical laws have a mathematical nature.
> Instead of comp creating a mathematical-phisical reality, is the
> mathematical reality what creates the computations in which we live.
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> So all kind of arbitrary universes may exist, but only (some) mathematical
> ones can harbour self preserving computations, that is, observers.
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> OK. But harboring self-preserving computation is not enough, it must do in a
> first person measure winning way  on all computations going through our
> state. That's nice as this explain that your idea of evolution needs to be
> extended up to the origin of the physical laws.
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>>     Mathematics is just a collection of  representations that are
>> internally logically consistent (note that the total mathematical universe
>> is not a single consistent set!), so outside of that what is there? Comp is
>> a mathematical model, its "support" outside of math remains to be seen.
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> Comp, is a bet involving the physical world, and the first person subject.
> But by its very nature, it leads to doubt the necessity to bet about
> something outside of a tiny part of arithmetic, for the ontology, as the
> "inside view" will already explode in a non mathematically unboundable way.
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> You need only the Turing universal reality. It is not important to choose
> numbers, or lambda terms, or combinators, or the game of life pattern, as
> they all lead to the same couplings consciousness/realities.
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> The arithmetical reality escapes the computable reality, but the computed
> beings are confronted to both the computable and the non computable, and a
> complete transfinite ladder of surprises.
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> Bruno
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