Russell, you seem to be restricted by OUR model-items, so far discovered. I call 'magic' the so far undiscovered, which - however - may become known later on. Then it is not magic. It would be the last thing to engage with you in discussing AL, but it seems you consider a limited one:
*RS: "(ALife researcher at least have the liberty of researching any interesting emergent phenomenon without having any particular emergent phenomenon in mind)."* Restricted to the so far emerged ones? or those not showing up in our limited search (fantasy)? John M * * On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Russell Standish <[email protected]>wrote: > On Fri, Oct 05, 2012 at 07:51:37AM +1000, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Roger Clough <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi everything-list > > > > > > The current paradigm for understanding the brain and mind > > > and their relationship appears to be "bottom-up" theories > > > and calculations, that is, starting with the body and > > > hoping to reach I'm not sure what. > > > > > > Eventually in these theories one reaches a state of complexity > > > that apparently can only be overcome by the emergence of > > > new properties. If this isn't magic, I don't know what it is. > > > > You put together pieces of metal, plastic, hydrocarbons and you get - > > a car! If this isn't magic, I don't know what is. > > > > Sarcasm aside, Roger does have a point. It is very difficult, > bordering on impossible, in general, to specify the microphysical > layer in just such a way as to reproduce a particular macrophysical > phenomenon of interest. This problem is faced everyday by > practitioners of agent-based modelling, and to a lesser extent by > artitifical life researchers (ALife researcher at least have the liberty of > researching any interesting emergent phenomenon without having any > particular emergent phenomenon in mind). > > Cheers > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
