On Wed, Aug 20, 2025 at 6:51 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:

*>> I don't think it's silly at all. I admit we don't yet know if Einstein
>> gave us the ultimate answer to the question "why does space expand" but we
>> do know that either the ultimate answer is a brute fact, or there is no
>> ultimate answer because an iterated sequence of such "why" questions goes
>> on forever. *
>
>

*> That's a peculiar attitude coming from a guy who hates the "shut up and
> calculate"*


*If I thought we had reach the brute fact level in Quantum Mechanics then I
agree that we should be satisfied with "shut up and calculate", but there
is reason to believe that at least one further "why" question is possible
because two different theories could provide an answer, one is Many Worlds
and the other is Objective Collapse. Perhaps one of them is right, perhaps
both of them are wrong and then, when it comes to Quantum Mechanics, I
would become a shut up and calculate man. But when it comes to General
Relativity there is nothing equivalent to Many Worlds or Objective
Collapse, which makes me suspect we have reached the brute fact level,
although we can never be certain. *

> I'm not seeking "the ultimate answer", just one that makes some sense. AG


*The mathematics of General Relativity says that a sufficiently negative
pressure will cause space to expand, or to be more precise, if d is the
energy density of the universe and  the pressure is p then if (d+3p) < 0
then space will expand, but if (d+3p) >0 then space will contract.
Apparently you believe another "why" question is in order, maybe so I don't
know, but I don't see how you could say that it doesn't make sense, what
Einstein said was very clear, there are no logical contradictions and so
far at least it has passed all observational tests with flying colors.  *

* John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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