On 8/7/2025 4:03 AM, John Clark wrote:
*Many quantum interpretations such as Copenhagen (but not Many Worlds) claim there is a "Heisenberg cut", a dividing line between the quantum world and the classical world, but it's getting harder and harder to find where that dividing line is. At first they claimed quantum mechanical behavior was limited to sub atomic particles but then it was discovered that buckyballs, which are composed of 60 carbon atoms, did too. And now in Wednesday's issue of the journal Nature experimenters report they have detected quantum behavior in silica nanospheres that have a diameter of 120 nm and contain approximately _60 million atoms_, and they were able to detect it even at room temperature. *
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*I don't think the Heisenberg cut exists, I think everything behaves quantum mechanically.*
Bohr's point was that there must be instruments and records which behave classically, otherwise science is impossible; no one could agree on observations.  His position was that the Heisenberg cut has to exist.  Much later it was discovered that decoherence provides a mechanism for the cut.  But Bohr's point still holds.  In fact surprisingly small things, like many biological molecules behave classically.

Brent
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*High-purity quantum optomechanics at room temperature <https://www.nature.com/articles/s41567-025-02976-9>
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*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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