On Friday, July 4, 2025 at 12:21:24 PM UTC-6 Quentin Anciaux wrote:
You are really pathetic. There is only one definition of what superdeterminism is. If you had two working brain cells, you’d first read the answers given to you and, if that’s too hard, use Google or an AI. But apparently that’s too complicated for you, and you’d feel obliged to admit you’re a prick. Quentin Except for the fact that Clark might have a non-standard definition of super determinism. I need to know HIS definition to proceed intelligently. Why don't you make the effort to understand where I am coming from, before you indulge invective? Further, I don't see how unitary evolution of the wf implies no need for the wf to have access to future information. You might try to explain this if you have the time and interest. AG All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. (Roy Batty/Rutger Hauer) Le ven. 4 juil. 2025, 20:07, Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> a écrit : On Friday, July 4, 2025 at 11:22:35 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2025 at 11:26 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: On Friday, July 4, 2025 at 7:51:54 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote: On Fri, Jul 4, 2025 at 9:23 AM Alan Grayson <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: *> If so, is this Super Determinism? AG?* *No. The Big Bang could've started out in an astronomical number of different states and they all result in you turning left and turning right and being unable to decide where to turn. But there is only one initial state the Big Bang could've been in that would result in an experimenter always finding that the Bell, Lettett, and the Leggett-Garg Inequality are all violated even though things exist in one and only one definite state even if they have not been measured. * How is this distinguished from Super Determinism? AG *Holy shit!!* Do you even bother to read my answers to one of your questions *?* Apparently not. *I read it twice, but see no explicit definition of super determinism. AG* *I suggest an adult remedial reading course at your local community college, you'll probably need to read this three times to understand what it means. * *John K Clark* You continue to take a dishonorable path, and then blame me for your bad habits. Without knowing YOUR definition of super determinism, I don't see how I can evaluate your comment. AG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/c6ff6506-b547-4949-b956-eeaac7560ab7n%40googlegroups.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/c6ff6506-b547-4949-b956-eeaac7560ab7n%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/everything-list/450d1218-f04c-4d0d-8b56-8415dda41979n%40googlegroups.com.