I would expect that government spy organizations would already be archiving the RSA encrypted data traffic in anticipation of being able to read it in 4 to 8 years.

Brent

On 6/10/2025 1:07 PM, John Clark wrote:
*IBM just published a roadmap of what they expect to accomplish in the next few years in the field of quantum computers, and it's pretty damn ambitious: *

How IBM will build the world's first large-scale, fault-tolerant quantum computer <https://www.ibm.com/quantum/blog/large-scale-ftqc>

*After reading the above I decided to ask Claude the following question: *
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*"IBM recently predicted that by 2029 they should have a quantum computer that has 200 error corrected _logical_ Qubits, and by 2033 they will have 2000. What sort of things could something like that do, could it break RSA encryption?"*
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*Claude responded with the following:*
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*"IBM's quantum computing roadmap is indeed ambitious. Starling is expected to be capable of 100 million quantum operations using 200 logical qubits 'The science is solved': IBM to build monster 10,000-qubit quantum computer by 2029 | Live Science<https://www.livescience.com/technology/computing/ibm-will-build-monster-10-000-qubit-quantum-computer-by-2029-after-solving-science-behind-fault-tolerance>, with the larger Blue Jay system planned for 2033 featuring 2,000 logical qubits capable of 1 billion quantum operations.*

*These systems could potentially tackle several important computational problems:*

*What 200-2000 logical qubits could accomplish:*

*_Chemistry and Materials Science_: Simulating molecular interactions for drug discovery, catalyst design, and materials development. This could accelerate pharmaceutical research and help design better batteries, solar cells, and superconductors.*

*_Optimization Problems_: Solving complex logistics, supply chain optimization, financial portfolio management, and traffic routing problems that are computationally intensive for classical computers.*

*_Machine Learning_: Quantum machine learning algorithms could potentially offer advantages for certain pattern recognition and data analysis tasks.*

*Cryptanalysis: This brings us to your RSA question - and it's a crucial one.*

*Regarding RSA Encryption:*

*The threat to RSA depends on successfully implementing Shor's algorithm at scale. Current estimates suggest that breaking RSA-2048 (the current standard) would require approximately 2,000-4,000 logical qubits with millions of quantum operations.*

*IBM's 2029 system with 200 logical qubits would likely be insufficient to break current RSA encryption. However, _their 2033 system with 2,000 logical qubits could potentially approach the threshold needed for RSA-2048_, depending on error rates and algorithm efficiency improvements.*

*This timeline aligns with why cryptographers are already developing "post-quantum" encryption methods that would resist quantum attacks. The transition needs to happen before quantum computers become capable enough, not after.*

*It's worth noting that these are IBM's projections, and quantum computing development faces significant technical challenges in error correction and maintaining quantum coherence at scale."*

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*2025 IBM Quantum Roadmap update <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_y43boNNoVo>*

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*Realizing large-scale, fault-tolerant quantum computing <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrZHPil0BTA>
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*John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*

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