On 5/31/2025 6:26 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Friday, May 30, 2025 at 5:01:10 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

    On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 5:04 PM Alan Grayson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

            *>> The James Webb telescope has discovered a galaxy with
            the red shift of 14.44. From that you can calculate that
            it took light 13.5 billion years to reach us, it started
            its journey only 280 million years after the Big Bang. 
            And because of the expansion of the universe the galaxy is
            now 34.7 billion light years from the Earth. What I find
            really fascinating is that although we can see the galaxy
            if we tried to send a laser beam to it, because of the
            expansion of the universe, the beam would _NEVER_ reach
            it; in fact that's true for any galaxy that has a red
            shift larger than 1.8, and this one had a red shift of
            14.44! *

            *James Webb telescope breaks its own record again,
            discovering farthest known galaxy in the universe*
            
<https://www.livescience.com/space/astronomy/previously-unimaginable-james-webb-telescope-breaks-its-own-record-again-discovering-farthest-known-galaxy-in-the-universe>

        /> Does a red shift of 1.8 imply recession at light speed?/


    *If you're looking at a galaxy that has a red shift of 1.8then
    you're looking at how that galaxy looked 10.2 billion years ago,
    back then it was not moving away from us faster than the speed of
    light but today it is,*


*Applying Hubble's law, the rate of expansion in the early universe was hugely greater than it is today. If that's correct, how can you claim that if 10.2 billion years ago it was not receding faster than light speed (which is possible), but today it is (which seems impossible)? AG*
*
Hubble expansion is not a speed, it's a speed per unit distance. Even if the Hubble parameter were much higher the past, a galaxy that was then much closer would be moving away more slowly.

Brent*

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