No Mitch, you got your ass handed to you with the "What if Kamala..." question. Any rational person would condemn/scrutinize it like Carter's peanut farm.
And anybody can make a thousand deals a minute. It's the character/substance of the deals that counts. And if the plane goes to his library, so that a plane donated generously to the government stays in his personal possession "after office" (who believes that he would step down?), then that makes sense, as libraries all need luxurious 747s, right? There's never been a functioning library without them (something we know you can't confirm, as you've never been to one, whether on- or offline). And that you still cling to the notion that this is somehow "great for America", when the guy is walking around making your iphones/tech more expensive, enriching himself with every dictator in the middle east; assuming that the cash will come back and buy you your flying hydro or your own palace in the sky... so that all MAGA gets to live the life of Arabian royalty, with Camel shows and carpets: Show us the peace in that region that all these deals bring, show us the car, along with you and all MAGAs sitting having drinks and cutting deals with Arab royalty 24/7. And while you're sipping those drinks, the royals will be laughing behind your backs about those deals, because MAGA may have the guns... but they suck at reading anything longer than a paragraph... and maths extending numbers beyond magazine capacity. They would die for their country and destroy the woke but they would rather die than learn how to reason or read. Guns won't help with this problem. MAGA needs to learn math, science, and engineering, otherwise those factory engineers, needed to bring all those factories back, will not materialize and be controlled by woke scientists again. On Friday, May 16, 2025 at 5:03:03 PM UTC+2 [email protected] wrote: > John, I asked Gemini this: When did Smoot Hawley end? I learned some > history just now, and The Donald is doing nothing but what FDR did from > 1933 onwards. Except Donald is a much, much faster learner thabn FDR was. > Weeks instead if years with trade deals! > ========================================================= > > Here's a more detailed explanation: > > - *Enactment:* > The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act was passed by the U.S. Congress and signed > into law on June 17, 1930, during the Great Depression. > - *Impact:* > This act significantly increased tariffs on imported goods, aiming to > protect American businesses from foreign competition. However, it was > widely criticized for contributing to a global trade war and worsening the > economic downturn. > - *Gradual Changes:* > The Smoot-Hawley Act's impact lessened over time due to several > factors: > - *Reciprocal Trade Agreements Act > > <https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=df2587edbf333377&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1161&sxsrf=AHTn8zqIGWT33RfXSnXpsY9LwB7w78vxKg%3A1747407536489&q=Reciprocal+Trade+Agreements+Act&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjO2vWroKiNAxUWEVkFHf0gDLYQxccNegUIowEQAQ&mstk=AUtExfCcjlDI9QEQQinQUgXOWNuVFTbMQKLXGtZQSQcYN87OhOheEXBe0e_UnhKpYFiSzhZYumRp6OKsrbAi61XPr_hoWJbt3oG2kGF6fE_yJLLAGNZa-TZvw-k5bThrOyJQBuCfxcCGmGAzHWj2QNjvFCzMUHGpMToBhc6gXnivVBagDWk&csui=3> > (1934):* > This act gave the President authority to negotiate trade > agreements that could reduce tariffs on a reciprocal basis with other > countries. > - *General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) > > <https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=df2587edbf333377&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1161&sxsrf=AHTn8zqIGWT33RfXSnXpsY9LwB7w78vxKg%3A1747407536489&q=General+Agreement+on+Tariffs+and+Trade+%28GATT%29&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjO2vWroKiNAxUWEVkFHf0gDLYQxccNegUIpwEQAQ&mstk=AUtExfCcjlDI9QEQQinQUgXOWNuVFTbMQKLXGtZQSQcYN87OhOheEXBe0e_UnhKpYFiSzhZYumRp6OKsrbAi61XPr_hoWJbt3oG2kGF6fE_yJLLAGNZa-TZvw-k5bThrOyJQBuCfxcCGmGAzHWj2QNjvFCzMUHGpMToBhc6gXnivVBagDWk&csui=3> > (1947):* > This international agreement aimed to reduce trade barriers and > promote free trade, leading to a gradual lowering of tariffs worldwide. > > - *World Trade Organization (WTO):* The WTO, which succeeded GATT, > continued to promote free trade and further reduce tariffs on a global > scale. > - *No Specific End:* > The Smoot-Hawley Act wasn't formally repealed. Instead, the provisions > within it were superseded by newer legislation and international > agreements, effectively making it less relevant in modern trade practices. > > > ========================================================== > > > > > On Friday, May 16, 2025 at 08:55:56 AM EDT, John Clark <[email protected]> > wrote: > On Fri, May 16, 2025 at 6:52 AM '[email protected]' via Everything List < > [email protected]> wrote: > > *> Remember, whether its Kamala or the Donald, a policy must work in the > real world planet earth.* > > > *Like the policy of increasing tariffs MORE than the > disastrous Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 did which turned a > garden-variety recession into the first, and so far the only, global > economic depression? Even after Trump faced reality by backing down and > reducing the tariffs on China from a stunningly imbecilic 145%, it's still > at 30% and he threatens to bring it back to 145% in just 90 > days. Smoot-Hawley only had a comparatively modest 20% tariff.* > > > *> If it doesn't work and is tstill pursued, it then is ideology,* > > > *And that is exactly why I am justified in calling MAGA people cult > members. * > > > *> who is the paymasters of said, pol. * > > > *With Trump it's easy to answer that question. We can start with Trump > receiving a $400 million super luxury private jet (9 bathrooms all > with bidets) from the Qatar royal family. Before that plane can be used as > Air Force One it will need to be taken apart piece by piece to check for > bugs and other spying equipment, and then all sorts of supersecret > communication devices will need to be installed, and decoy probes to > confuse anti-aircraft missiles. And it will need to be very extensively > modified to allow in-flight refueling just like the current air force one. * > > *All this means the American taxpayer will need to shell out about $1 > billion for that "free" private jet. And it will take about three years, so > if Trump decides to leave office at the end of his second term (a very very > big if) he will only be able to use it as president for a few months, after > that ownership of the airplane does not go to the United States government > but to Trump's presidential library, which means he will still be able to > use that obnoxiously luxurious private jet not the new president, and even > after he dies his children could use it. Trump's attorney general Pam Bondi > looked into all of this and said it was 100% legal and ethical, but she is > a former lobbyist who was paid $125,000 a month to lobby Congress on behalf > of the country of Qatar.* > > > *And that jet is just a hint of the gargantuan magnitude of the Trump > family corruption. Eric Trump has deals to create a Trump Tower luxury > hotel in Dubai, and in Jeddah and Riyadh in Saudi Arabia. There's also > going to be a Trump International Hotel and luxury golf course in Oman. And > there is a partnership with Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund to develop > yet another luxury golf resort in that country * > > *And then there is Trump's cryptocurrency scam "Stablecoin" which the > Trump children control, an Abu Dhabi Company has a $2 billion investment in > it. * > > *I don't think it's a coincidence that Trump's first foreign trip during > his second term as president is to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab > Emirates. It sure makes the Hunter Biden "corruption" scandal look pretty > damn trivial. * > > > John K Clark See what's on my new list at Extropolis > <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis> > pdt > > btl > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *> What if Kamala accepted the same deal? You would say what? * > > > *I would say that Kamala was a disgusting piece of shit. And that my dear > Mr. Spud is the fundamental difference between you and me, you have blind > tribal loyalty but I do not. * > > > > *Can you imagine the howls of protest we'd be hearing from Fox News and > the MAGA faithful if Biden or Obama had accepted such a blatant bribe from > a foreign country! 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