On 5/8/2025 3:58 AM, John Clark wrote:

On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 8:58 PM Brent Meeker <[email protected]> wrote:

    /> that doesn't mean you can't measure them both precisely/


*But thanks to Heisenberg's uncertainty principleyou can't predict what that measurement will be,and even if you repeat conditions exactly you will not get the same measurements for momentum and position (or energy and time) if you perform the experiment again.
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Yes, exactly. But my point is that the fact tha you can measure both precisely for the same particle is commonly denied.  The problem in is that the HUP applies to an/*ideal*/ measurement, one that leaves the system having the measured value, in other words a preparation.

Brent
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