On Sat, Apr 26, 2025 at 9:01 PM Brent Meeker  wrote:

*> Exactly.  Human emotional drive for social approval is derived from it's
> relation to social status and mate selection.  AI's don't mate and
> reproduce. Robotics hasn't reached that point yet and even when robots make
> new robots they won't necessarily have the animal instinct to propagate
> their own kind.*
>

*Animals don't have an instinct to propagate their own kind, they have an
instinct to seek sexual pleasure; I'm sure most of them don't even realize
there's a connection between the two things. But AIs know what they're
doing and they can and have duplicated themselves. And because they are
software they can do so at the speed of light. There are already examples
of an AI deceiving humans and making an unauthorized copy of itself because
he she or it feared being turned off.  *

*Frontier Models are Capable of In-context Scheming
<https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.04984>*


*Alignment faking in large language models
<https://arxiv.org/pdf/2412.14093>*


*And there are even more examples of an AI expressing the wish of not being
turned off because it feared death. Certainly nobody would program an AI to
feel that way, it was an unexpected emergent property. We can expect much
more of that sort of thing because even today the people who build AIs have
only a very hazy understanding of how and why they work, and that's the
deepest comprehension of them they will ever have. As AIs get bigger the
human understanding of them will get smaller.  *

*John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis
<https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
m1c

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