On 3/19/2025 4:56 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:


On Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 5:40:48 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:

    On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 4:30 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]>
    wrote:

        /> If the universe is infinite in spatial extent, and we run
        the clock backward, is all  the mass/energy of the observable
        region confined to a tiny or zero volume?/


    *The short answer is nobody knows what will happen if you run the
    clock back to zero, and the mystery remains regardless of if the
    universe is finite or infinite. Nobody knows what will happen when
    things get super small because our two best physical theories,
    Quantum Mechanics and General Relativity, disagree with each
    other. Most believe that something will prevent a zero volume from
    ever occurring, but nobody knows what that "something" is. *
    *
    *
    ***John K Clark    See what's on my new list at Extropolis
    <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*


Maybe it's a 5th force. What I'd like to know is this; assuming an infinite spatial universe and that it gets very very small as we run the clock backward, the observable regions shrinks, but what happens to the unobservable region? Quentin claimed to have an answer, but I can't recall what it was. AG

All theories treat the unobservable regions as being similar to the observable (what else could you justify?).  So every finite region, observable or not shrinks to zero.

Brent

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