@Brent. The only thing that you ever observe is your own consciousness. 
Which undoubtedly does a great job at tricking you into believing that you 
observe an "external world".

On Wednesday, 19 March 2025 at 23:28:40 UTC+2 Brent Meeker wrote:

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> On 3/19/2025 4:56 AM, Alan Grayson wrote:
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> On Wednesday, March 19, 2025 at 5:40:48 AM UTC-6 John Clark wrote:
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> On Wed, Mar 19, 2025 at 4:30 AM Alan Grayson <[email protected]> wrote:
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> *> If the universe is infinite in spatial extent, and we run the clock 
> backward, is all  the mass/energy of the observable region confined to a 
> tiny or zero volume?*
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> *The short answer is nobody knows what will happen if you run the clock 
> back to zero, and the mystery remains regardless of if the universe is 
> finite or infinite. Nobody knows what will happen when things get super 
> small because our two best physical theories, Quantum Mechanics and General 
> Relativity, disagree with each other. Most believe that something will 
> prevent a zero volume from ever occurring, but nobody knows what that 
> "something" is.  *
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>   *John K Clark    See what's on my new list at  Extropolis 
> <https://groups.google.com/g/extropolis>*
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> Maybe it's a 5th force. What I'd like to know is this; assuming an 
> infinite spatial universe and that it gets very very small as we run the 
> clock backward, the observable regions shrinks, but what happens to the 
> unobservable region? Quentin claimed to have an answer, but I can't recall 
> what it was. AG 
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> All theories treat the unobservable regions as being similar to the 
> observable (what else could you justify?).  So every finite region, 
> observable or not shrinks to zero.  
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> Brent
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