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Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2025 12:01:51 +0200
From: "EV List Lackey" <[email protected]>
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Lack of Tesla Service
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On 20 Jul 2025 at 20:51, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

>  You can put lipstick on a pig, or get a Tesla.

While I think that might have been true 8-10 years ago, today there are many
more good EVs. 

Tesla has been slacking, while other EV makers have sprinted ahead. 

One problem is that Tesla still has nothing in the low price class. In fact
they cancelled their program to make one. 

I haven't been following the EV market in the US all that closely, but here
in France, there are now good, practical EVs starting at under 23,000 euros.
That's 20,000 euros less than Tesla's cheapest Model 3, and they're flying
off the dealer lots.

In fact for the price of a base Model 3, you could buy TWO of France's
cheapest EV, the Dacia Spring (< 17,000 euros), and have 9,000 euros left
over.  The Spring's not a luxurious or sporty EV by any means, but it's a
decent and usable city car.

Also, you may not see it there because of US tariffs, but in China, their
homegrown automakers are wiping the floor with Tesla and just about everyone
else.  They're ahead on price, on range, on charging speed, on features.

I think that Tesla needs to get going pronto, but Elon Musk seems to have
lost interest in EVs.  I hope that Tesla can get back in the game in spite
of him, or, if necessary, without him.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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There are many things to consider when buying an auto. Safety, durability and 
availability of parts. Case in point, of the best selling car in the world the 
Model Y, when driven off Devils Slide all passengers survived. The intent was 
murder suicide. That certainly didn't hurt the safety reputation of the Y. As 
of July 2025, the Tesla Model Y continues to be the best-selling electric 
vehicle globally, with the Tesla Model 3 also holding a strong position in the 
top rankings. BYD, particularly with their plug-in hybrid models, also has a 
strong presence, especially in the Chinese market. Other popular EVs include 
the Ford Mustang Mach-E, Hyundai Ioniq 5, and Honda Prologue. I choose one 
Tesla over two inferior vehicles. Seems much of the planet agrees with me. Full 
disclosure I drive a 3. My wife drives a Model Y. Lawrence Rhodes
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