I believe, in Washington, volunteers are not subject to L&I. At least, this was 
true a few years ago when i directly asked them. I used some volunteers for 
demolition and minor construction. 

However, it is true that only a home owner or licensed electrician or people 
working under direct supervision of someone licensed are allowed to do 
electrical work. 

There is a nuance here: i think volunteers would be acceptable as long as the 
journeyman is on site while they are working. I asked the inspector once about 
me (owner) doing electrical under supervision of an electrician, and that was 
acceptable. Not exactly the same as a volunteer, though.

If that isn't true, another approach would be to register them as in-training. 
I don't think you need any classroom work to get that started. Probably some 
forms to to fill out though. And the hours would legitimately count towards 
becoming journeymen. 

Peri 


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From: Roger Daisley via EV <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2025 01:05
To: 'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dumped by two solar providers.

That would be a big code violation and likely a very big fine by L&I in 
Washington State. In WA, your volunteers can not even mount racking, even with 
a Journeyman electrician "supervising." (Racking is considered "electrical 
equipment.")
If a volunteer even so much as touched a wire, L&I would probably go for the 
Death Penalty ... After they drained their bank account! If a licensed 
electrician was on-site and helped in any way, he/she would also likely get 
their bank account substantially lowered.
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From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Cor van de Water via EV
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2025 7:11 PM
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Cc: Cor van de Water <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Dumped by two solar providers.
Hi Lawrence,
The non-profit Sunwork.org specifically targets the solar installations for 
people that have too small energy bills to be interesting for the big 
installers.
Not sure if they will do installs in the city, most of their projects are 
around the south bay area, but it can't hurt to ask them.
Their model is that you buy the system outright, they charge their cost while 
their manhours are reduced by doing the install with volunteers, supervised by 
one of their staff, who also does the design, permitting and signoff.
Full disclosure: I am a volunteer solar installer, trained by Sunwork and 
participated in several of their local installations.
Cor.
On Tue, Apr 1, 2025 at 6:59 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
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> First Solarsesame backed out. Then Tesla did. The Tesla reason was we didn't 
> have the room for 10 panels. Who can do a challenging installation for a good 
> price using permits. I just got hit by State Farm just for having a messy 
> yard and storing wood under a staircase. Lawrence Rhodes....Got my insurance 
> back and a clean back yard.
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