I know about the severe drain of the PTC heater (and its
many-minutes-delay before supplying heat) so if I need to change the
interior temperature or get rid of moisture, I prefer to open the
windows a bit, rarely using the A/C, and in winter combine this with
intermittent bursts of using the windshield defogger button, turning
it off as soon as the A/C has made the windows clear again.

On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 12:00 PM (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> wrote:
>
> Forgot to add: In 2011 we had a meeting with the Leaf's Chief Engineer; 
> Hidetoshi Kadota, and I explained this problem and asked why no heat pump?  
> So in 2013 they rolled out a heat pump, and on the base models added a switch 
> to disable the PTC coolant heater.   So only 2011 & 2012 models suffer from 
> this.
>
> On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:56 AM (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> wrote:
>>
>> Pre 2013 has a serious problem where the liquid heater comes on if the 
>> climate control is on at all, there was no way to stop this w/o completely 
>> turning off the CC.   I used to sell a mod to change this.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykjgnrZTF2c
>>
>> Sadly, the schematic and instructions were lost in a server crash, so no, I 
>> can't share it, but it was basically just installing a transistor and a few 
>> discretes inside the HVAC control module.  We sold these as an advanced 
>> replacement where we sent you a modified unit, and you sent the old one 
>> back.   Sadly, There isn't enough business anymore to make it work.  If I 
>> still had the schematic, I'd release it in the public domain.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:44 AM Cor van de Water <cor.vandewa...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a 2012 also and generally avoid using the PTC heater that warms up 
>>> the liquid that flows through the heater core.
>>> I *so* wished that Nissan had skipped the liquid and instead heated the air 
>>> directly, so we would have had *instant* heat in the cabin.
>>> I have the cold weather package on my Leaf and between the steering wheel 
>>> heater and the seat heaters, we can stay reasonable comfortable on even 
>>> longer trips (we regularly make 100 mi one way trips and since the car has 
>>> 230 mi range when drive carefully, due to its 2019 62kWh pack, I prefer to 
>>> make the entire 200 mi day trip on a single charge, so low accessory 
>>> consumption is preferred. Heating the entire cabin would eat too much into 
>>> the range.
>>> Cor.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2025, 11:09 AM (-Phil-) via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Heat pump was introduced in 2013 and equipped on SV or SL models.  Starting
>>>> in 2018 they made it optional on SV.  I don't know what the recent models
>>>> are like.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 9, 2025 at 11:03 AM redscooter via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >   how do I know which years/ trims have the heating heat pump.
>>>> >
>>>> > like from 2013 - 2018  to 2019 to current
>>>> >
>>>> > is there certain trim models?
>>>> >
>>>> > were tried of a cold old  2012
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