Indeed. When sharing info about "the Leaf" batteries it's best to specify the model year and pack size.

It not accurate or useful to simply generalize about "the Leaf" battery performance as if all Leafs are the same. Batteries are different in different model years.

The earliest model years seem to have had the most reported problems. Several owners here have rightly complained. But to assume or imply that those complaints necessarily apply to later models/packs isn't helpful.

2013 Leafs had a reported battery chemistry change and ours is doing well. Others have also reported decent experiences with those packs.

More recent model years have different and larger packs and it would be useful to know how those are holding up.

Back to the thread topic: A search for "ccs to chademo adapter leaf" brings up several options. Has anyone here had an opportunity to try any of them?


On 12/29/24 9:02 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote:
On 29 Dec 2024 at 7:25, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:

However it charges slow and the
  batteries are less than stellar. Very fast degradation.

Is the Leaf still having battery problems?  I know that the early ones did.

I've never fully understood why that was so.  The Leaf was developed more or
less in tandem with the Renault Zoe, at a time when Nissan and Renault had a
strong partnership.  You'd think that they'd have designed them similarly,
but they didn't.

For one thing, they were built on totally different platforms.  The original
Leaf was based on the Nissan Versa, and the Zoe on the Clio (never sold in
the US), a smaller and lighter car.

The original Zoe charged at 43kW on 3-phase AC power, meaning that with its
original 22kWh battery a 20-80% charge could take as little as 20 minutes
under ideal conditions.

And even though it also used air cooling for the battery, the Zoe never had
the same kind of degradation problems.  Zoe used a different type of cell,
and also was pretty aggressive about using the car's aircon to stabilize the
battery temperature.

I don't know for sure, but I suspect that Nissan's corporate culture might
have bought into "what could those French people know that we don't?" - such
that they were sure they had all the right answers, even when their EV
proved to be clearly more troublesome than their partner's.

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