Toyota probably knows they won’t make money on EVs for a long time, and are trying to eek out as much profit as they can out of ICE while the rest of the industry buries itself pushing the technology. Either they’re left as the only ICE car maker, with compelling gas products, or they watch other companies fail trying to go electric and reap the collateral benefit of a matured supply chain.
On Wed, Oct 9, 2024 at 9:16 PM Bill Dube via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > For some reason, Toyota is clinging desperately to the absurdity of > compressed hydrogen as a fuel for consumer automobiles. > <sigh> > > Bill D. > > On 10/10/2024 3:08 PM, (-Phil-) via EV wrote: > > They have introduced this "Hydrogen Suppository" now probably because all > > the Hydrogen stations are closing because they are unreliable and > > unprofitable: > > > https://www.techradar.com/vehicle-tech/hybrid-electric-vehicles/toyotas-portable-hydrogen-cartridges-look-like-giant-aa-batteries-and-could-spell-the-end-of-lengthy-ev-charging > > > > I did some calculations, and If that butt-plug holds 2 liters (being > > generous), it can only store about 80 grams of hydrogen if they compress > it > > to 700 bar (about 10,000 PSI!), which is what the tanks in the Mirai car > > they sell operates at. (It's a 5.65 kilogram tank!) So being generous > > and assuming 400 miles range, you get about 7 miles range per > > suppository! You'd need 68 of them to "fill" your tank! > > > > I can't even imagine how dangerous this thing is pressurized to 700 bar! > > It's got to be heavy so it's going to survive handling, and have thick > > insulation so it doesn't freeze your hands when you empty it into your > > car. (so it probably holds half of what I estimated!) > > > > INSANE! > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20241009/fa897a96/attachment.htm > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20241009/71b48a76/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
