> Stupid arguments on both sides...

Indeed, both sides danced around the key points.

ICEs get *all* of their fuel from fossil fuels. EVs only get about 60% of their 
fuel from fossil fuels (current percentage in the US).

Electric generating plants are about twice as efficient as ICE engines. Even if 
you assume that 100% of EV charging energy came from fossil fuels, the same 
amount of energy produces half the CO2 and pollution.

Electric transmission line losses are minimal -- only about 5%.

EVs are far more efficient in using their fuel energy. That's why the MPGe (MPG 
equivalent) for EVs is 3-4 times better than ICEs.

So EVs use less energy, to go farther, and produce less pollution.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Sent: Jul 26, 2024 9:23 AM
To: Electric List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Cc: Lawrence Winiarski <lawrence_winiar...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] EV efficiency argument.

Since most of the time the car knows what time it is, why not have a software 
option to prioritize the onboard chargers to charge during daylight hours to 
use a greater percentage of solar?    When you have a lot of unused range 
anyway, you don't need to keep topping off the car during the night..you can 
just delay until the sun comes up.   

Seems a relatively simple software change that could have pretty big power 
considerations.

On Friday, July 26, 2024, 5:56:43 AM PDT, paul dove via EV wrote:

I doubt we have any congressman that understand physics.
    On Friday, July 26, 2024 at 07:01:17 AM CDT, Mark Hanson via EV wrote: 



EV efficiency loop argument from pro EV Buttigieg.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/jML8xzgD3jw

Best regards Mark
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