Speaking of recalls, did you see that Toyota is recalling roughly 1 million cars
in the U.S. because the front passenger air bags may not deploy properly in a
crash, posing additional risk of injury to riders.
And in November, the company recalled 1.9 million RAV4 sport utility vehicles in
the U.S. because the batteries can shift during sharp turns and potentially
cause a fire.
And on Oct. 26 also recalled roughly 751,000 Toyota Highlander SUVs in the U.S.
to fix a problem with the tabs that secure the vehicles' front lower bumper
covers. Even a minor crash could cause the bumper cover assembly to fall off, a
potential hazard to drivers, the company said.

So in just in a year Toyota has had recalls for 3,651,000 cars. Globally, Toyota
sold around 10.48 million vehicles between January and December 2022, so their
2023 number should be similar. That means that about 34% of their vehicles had
recalls...

I just thought we should have another look at another companies failures to see
how Tesla compares.


Rush Dougherty
TucsonEV
www.TucsonEV.com




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> From: EV <ev-boun...@lists.evdl.org> On Behalf Of EV List Lackey via EV
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> Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: Yet more bad PR for Tesla
>
> I just hate seeing thiese dire Tesla news stories piling up.  I'm not an
engineer or
> regulator so I can't say anything about their validity.  I haven't read any
similar
> reports here on the list.  But for sure the negative publicity alone is doing
Tesla no
> good.
>
> -----
>
> From Reuters again:
>
> Tesla blamed drivers for failures of parts it long knew were defective
>
> Wheels falling off cars at speed. Suspensions collapsing on brand-new
vehicles.
> Axles breaking under acceleration. Tens of thousands of customers told Tesla
> about a host of part failures on low-mileage cars. The automaker sought to
blame
> drivers for vehicle `abuse,´ but Tesla documents show it had tracked the
chronic
> `flaws´ and `failures´ for years.
>
> *****
>
> Individual suspension or steering issues with Teslas have been discussed
online and
> in news accounts for years. But the documents, which have not been previously
> reported, offer the most comprehensive view to date into the scope of the
> problems and how Tesla handled what its engineers have internally called part
> "flaws" and "failures." The records and interviews reveal for the first time
that the
> automaker has long known far more about the frequency and extent of the
defects
> than it has disclosed to consumers and safety regulators.
>
> *****
>
> Tesla has blamed frequent failures of several parts on Tesla owners, alleging
they
> abused the cars ... [and] charged customers with out-of- warranty cars to
replace
> parts that Tesla engineers internally called flawed or that they knew had high
> failure rates.
>
> *****
>
> The records reveal persistent problems with ... upper and lower control arms,
and
> fore and aft links ... half shafts - the left and right drive axles - and
steering racks
> ...
>
> *****
>
> Between 2016 and 2020, Tesla resolved about 400 complaints involving aft- link
> failures in China ... Tesla redesigned the part four times because the initial
> revisions did not fully fix the problem, the automaker´s records show.
>
> *****
>
> Tesla delayed a recall for four more years, until Chinese regulators pushed
for one
> ...  the automaker never recalled the part in the United States and Europe
despite
> reports of frequent failures globally.
>
> Tesla told U.S. regulators the failures were caused by "driver abuse." The
company
> also instructed service centers, in a February 2019 "talking points"
> memo, to use the same explanation with customers experiencing aft-link
failures.
> They were told to blame "vehicle misuse," such as "hitting a curb or other
> excessive strong impact."
>
> *****
>
> Tesla owners have filed about 260 complaints with NHTSA over suspension and
> steering problems this year, compared to about 750 for General Motors and
> 230 for Toyota. That makes Tesla´s complaint rate far higher when considering
the
> number of GM and Toyota vehicles on the road. GM has a 21% share of U.S. cars
in
> operation; Toyota, 15%. Tesla´s share: less than 1%, according to data
analytics
> firm Experian.
>
> *****
>
> "All I can tell you," the Tesla manager said, "is we´re not a 100-year-old
company
> like GM and Ford. We haven´t worked all the bugs out yet."
>
> -----
>
> Those are just a few highlights (or lowlights if you will).  Read the full
> story:
>
> https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/tesla-musk-steering-
> suspension/
>
> or https://v.gd/XaWQzF
>
> Keeping in mind that Tesla also trades in the more strongly regulated EU, I
sure
> don't want to see Tesla buried under liability and/or legislative penalties.
They
> could end up sold to Stellantis or GM, or even BYD or Geely..  I'm concerned
that
> that's where they're headed.
>
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