Yeah on Model 3/Y and 2021+ S/X it's only minimal screen electronics and
ser/des glue to encode/decode touch and video in the screen itself.  All
the expensive bits are liquid cooled.   I can't promise that the screens
will last forever in hot climates, but they should be way more reliable
than in other newer cars where the computer is still part of the screen
assembly.  If it does fail, it's pretty cheap to pop a used one in there,
only takes a few minutes, and no software is involved.  Will probably cost
less than $500.   The best you can do for avoidance is obvious, park
inside/in shade, or at least cover/tint, or run cabin overheat
protection.   I think the screen will last the effective life of the car if
those reasonable precautions are taken.   (I park my Tesla in a garage)

As for microinverters, I am somewhat against them from a reliability
standpoint, the temp cycling is extreme, and it's hard to make them very
reliable, though enPhase has done a good job.   On my system I use a SMA
inverter with series-strings, and the inverter is inside a climate
controlled shop.   With the newer rapid disconnect requirements,
series-string is now less attractive, because you still have to have power
electronics on the roof, but luckily my system was before that.


On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 11:58 AM <markehans...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks Phil.
>
>
>
> Good info - assuming there's *no* electrolytic caps inside that tend to
> dry out & fail *over time* when hot.
>
>
>
> There's some folks with heat related screen issues over time in hotter
> areas than Viginia (like Florida, Aridzona) - solution to tint
> windshield/also sun shade when parked:
>
>
> https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/unresponsive-screen-in-the-heat.273151/
>
>
>
> Looks like Tesla did what they usually do, try & fix it in a "free"
> software update (although this appears to be a different issue than sun
> overheating):
>
>
> https://driveteslacanada.ca/news/tesla-recall-overheating-infotainment-display/
>
>
>
> Last year I went through a similar issue with my older (M series) Enphase
> solar microinverters (mounted 1" from the back of solar panels) that some
> were dying in our new 100F+ (37.7C) heat (since global warming has become
> popular), found that the caps were cooking - since the inverters were
> mounted flat behind the solar panels, running about 100C.  Mounting them
> sideways (perpendicular to the panels) lowered their temp 20F and stopped
> the failures.
>
>
>
> Anyway, just thinking for longevity - I should figure out how to make the
> screen run cooler.
>
>
>
>
>
> Have a renewable energy day,
>
>
>
> Mark
>
>
>
> Mark E. Hanson
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* (-Phil-)
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 28, 2023 1:36 PM
> *To:* Mark Hanson <markehans...@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* ev@lists.evdl.org
> *Subject:* Re: [EVDL] Overheating Tesla display
>
>
>
> Oh, in the sun I'm sure the solar radiation is the biggest problem.   Test
> it in the shade and you'll see it barely gets warm.
>
>
>
> There is no danger from letting it get hot, again on your car there is no
> computer in there, it's just a screen.   The computer is behind the
> glovebox on the firewall and it's liquid-cooled.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 4:30 AM Mark Hanson <markehans...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Phil
> So sounds like most of the heat is coming from the leds that brighten up
> when sunny, not the sun itself.  I thought of Epoxying a big finned heat
> sink on the back.
> Best regards
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 27, 2023, at 2:21 PM, (-Phil-) <p...@ingineerix.com> wrote:
>
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