I suppose we are waiting for a "Smart" size car from VW, for example if they bring an electrified version of the Up! That car is barely more than 11 ft long (3m 60cm) Cor.
On Wed, Nov 15, 2023, 7:45 PM EV List Lackey via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > I know of at least 3 EU automakers who are planning EVs in the EUR 20k > range > for 2025-2026. Alas, these will probably never arrive in the US. > > 1. Citroen New E-C3, a reworkikng of their long-popular C3 supermini. In > addition to the EV version they plan to offer mild hybrid and old > fashioned > ICEV models. > > The New E-C3 is supposed to go on sale in early 2025. Stellantis say it > will cost EUR 23,300 with a 44kWh LiFePO4 battery and a 320km range, and > EUR > 19,900 with a smaller battery and 200km range. We'll see whether those > prices hold up. > > 2. VW has been promising a 2025 EUR 20k EV for a while now. The ID2 was > supposed to be IT, but it looks like they'll swing wide on the price, more > like EUR 25k. They say they're still trying for the EUR 20k mark but it > will be a different car. Maybe an ID1? > > 3. On Wednesday (15 November 2023) Renault showed off a prototype of their > EUR 20k entry, wearing the Renault Twingo badge. Twingo has long been > Renault's smallest and cheapest ICEV. > > It had styling echoes of the 1st generation (1992) Twingo rather than the > current model. This is now a thing with Renault EVs. They also have in > the > wings Renault 4 and Renault 5 EVs, reminiscent f even older Renault ICEVs. > > Renault's current CEO is Luca de Meo, the guy who gave us the rehashed > Fiat > 500 when he ran that company. Are you surprised? > > The new Twingo will be an A-segment city car, probably built in Slovenia. > I > assume that it will replace the Chinese-made Dacia Spring, currently > Europe's cheapest EV. No info on battery or range, but they promise > energy > efficiency of 10kWh / 100km (160 Wh/mile).. > > Renault are trying to get it on the market in late 2025 or early 2026 > > "'Twingo is the European kei car," [de Meo] said. 'It doesn't make sense > to > use a 2.5-ton car to move a single person in the city ... We have to go > back > to smaller cars.'" > > Full story: > > > https://europe.autonews.com/cars-concepts/renault-preps-twingo-electric-city- > car-2026-launch > <https://europe.autonews.com/cars-concepts/renault-preps-twingo-electric-city-car-2026-launch> > > https://v.gd/S3Q4iI > > In other news, earlier this month Renault spun off their EV division as a > new subsidiary, Ampere. IMO this might not have been the best name for it > as it's reminiscent of the Opel Ampera, the EU version of the Chevrolet > Volt, but who am I to say? > > They have pretty lofty goals for reducing costs. > > https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/renault-targets-11-billion-revenue- > ampere-ev-unit > <https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/renault-targets-11-billion-revenue-ampere-ev-unit> > > https://v.gd/mvzGbf > > David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey > > To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my > offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit > atrocities. > > -- Voltaire > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20231115/3b4af54c/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/