On 21 Jun 2023 at 10:37, Lee Hart via EV wrote: > There won't be a "true" standard until someone gains monopoly control > and drives out everyone else.
GM tried that with Magne Charge inductive 30 years ago. Tesla seems to be angling for it now, at least in the US. > there is no enforcement mechanism. That's often the case in the US. Let the sacred "free market" sort it out! However, standards can be "adopted" and granted the force of law. This has long been the case with the NEC, which is almost always incorporated by reference in local US building codes. As for J1772, I'm pretty sure that CARB required compliance on all EVs sold in California. This would have been from the mid-2000s. In any case the requirement was in place in time for the Mitsubishi Imiev and Nissan Leaf to go on sale. I guess that even Tesla complied, though it was through an adapter, so perhaps grudgingly. :-\ > The great thing about standards is that there are so many to choose > from. (anonymous) :-) <OFF_TOPIC> To give credit where due, I think that Andrew S Tanenbaum originated that gem. At any rate, the Unix Fortune database attributed it to him by the mid 1980s. It's from Computer Networks. You'll find it on page 702 of the fifth edition, in a discussion of audio compression. What he actually wrote was "Is that clear now? The nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. And if you do not like any of them, just wait a year or two." In the same volume we also find, attributed to Paul Mockapetris: Q: What do you get when you cross a mobster with an international standard? A: Someone who makes you an offer you can't understand. One last word on standards: https://xkcd.com/927/ </OFF_TOPIC> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey To reach me, don't reply to this message; I won't get it. Use my offlist address here : http://evdl.org/help/index.html#supt = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = The metaverse as envisioned by the tech giants is not some promising new frontier for humanity. It's just another place to spend money on things. --Keza MacDonald = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/