We have two Leafs..The 2013 will charge to 80%. The newer 2016 does not have 
the setting. Can it be added somehow? Lawrence Rhodes 
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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: the grid needs upgrading - fast (EV List Lackey)
  2. Re: the grid needs upgrading - fast (j...@k6ccc.org)
  3. leaf 2013 battery (Lawrence Rhodes)
  4. Re: leaf 2013 battery (Peri Hartman)
  5. Re: leaf 2013 battery (Jay Summet)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:19:08 -0500
From: "EV List Lackey" <evp...@drmm.net>
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] the grid needs upgrading - fast
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Good luck with that.  Most of our "investor owned" utilities don't have a 
good track record of even keeping up with current maintenance, much less 
actually planning for the future.  Unless they can see a return from it this 
quarter, they won't pay for it.  If you want to see where that kind of short-
sightedness leads, have a look at Puerto Rico's grid.

David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey

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Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:05:47 -0800 (PST)
From: "j...@k6ccc.org" <j...@k6ccc.org>
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David said:
> Good luck with that.  Most of our "investor owned" utilities don't have a 
> good track record of even keeping up with current maintenance, much less 
> actually planning for the future.

For the most part, at least here in California, the investor owned utilities 
largely are not allowed to plan (or more accurately to spend) for the future.  
In really short summary, the concept is that rate payers today should not have 
to pay for future projects.  That is an insanely simple explanation of a very 
complex process, but it's a fairly accurate summary.

As I understand it, most other states are at least similar.


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Jim Walls - K6CCC
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 01:17:17 +0000 (UTC)
From: Lawrence Rhodes <primobass...@sbcglobal.net>
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Subject: [EVDL] leaf 2013 battery
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As far as I know the 2013 has the lizard battery.? Lawrence Rhodes
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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 03:23:48 +0000
From: "Peri Hartman" <pe...@kotatko.com>
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That's what I've read, too, but I sure would like a definitive way to 
know.

This guy, LeftieBiker, wrote quite a lot, might be worth reading:
https://mynissanleaf.com/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=26662

Peri

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Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 08:50:20 -0500
From: Jay Summet <j...@summet.com>
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My understanding is that early 2013's had the original cell chemistry 
battery from 2011-2012....late 2013's had the new cell chemistry used in 
2014 onwards.  So buying a 2014+ is the easy way to guarantee getting a 
"lizard" battery without looking up the exact date of manufacture, etc....

The VIN can give you a clue, but the only sure way to confirm is to open 
the battery up and see if the modules inside look like Gen1 modules or not.

This image shows the difference:
https://evbatterycenter.com/HAC4/images/2012-2013.jpg

Jay



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