I would NEVER let a car drive me unless it was coupled to a track. Sent from my iPhone
> On Aug 16, 2022, at 3:04 PM, Justin Kenny via EV <ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > > The Tesla "FSD" computer is actually "dual redundant" as mentioned in this > Tesla Autonomy Day clip from 3 years ago: > https://youtu.be/Ucp0TTmvqOE?t=4648 However to your point, 2 is not enough; > it's only enough to tell you *someone* is wrong, but not who. Hence why in > my job with hardware testing we need a minimum of 3 devices tested to > indicate which one is the outlier, if any. Given that "FSD" even now is > still a level 2 system where the driver is fully responsible for the > actions of the car, I suppose they don't care, if one computer doesn't > agree with the other, it kicks back to you, the responsible driver. Very > annoying and dangerous if this happens around a sharp turn or construction > zone, as (non-FSD) autopilot tends to do, however. > > - Justin > > >> Message: 4 >> Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2022 21:44:09 -0400 >> From: "mark hanson" <markehans...@gmail.com> >> To: "'Electric Vehicle Discussion List'" <ev@lists.evdl.org> >> Subject: [EVDL] Self Driving Not Ready for Prime Time, EVLN: Tesla >> can't see kids >> Message-ID: <000b01d8ad23$d9e84c50$8db8e4f0$@gmail.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >> >> Hi Folks, >> >> >> >> I was heading up rt81 freeway from Roanoke VA to Harrisonburg yesterday in >> my Tesla Y to get flushed away at the Massanutten H20 Park and an hour into >> the trip the self driving or "auto pilot" jerked the steering wheel into >> the >> left lane & I jerked it back (luckily between cars). I thought using self >> driving was safe on straight highways, "what could possibly go wrong?". >> Then about a 1/2 hour later (just using the cruise control), it hit the >> brakes and I hit the accelerator (almost got rear ended). My son said >> "dad, >> why don't you just drive the car and forget about the self driving >> nonsense". Words of wisdom. Elon should just keep making a nice EV and >> forget the fluffy stuff that causes problems. >> >> >> >> The fundemantal "fatal flaw" is self driving needs at least 3 computers to >> "vote" and kick out the one that gets a glitch (cosmic rays, brain farts >> etc). All the cars attempting this foolishness are using only *one* >> microcomputer. >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220816/0ecad93c/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > _______________________________________________ Address messages to ev@lists.evdl.org No other addresses in TO and CC fields HELP: http://www.evdl.org/help/
