I believe the real push here is getting photovoltaic from common elements. To 
reduce cost and increase availability NickSent from my Galaxy
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<ev@lists.evdl.org> Date: 2022-06-28  5:32 p.m.  (GMT-05:00) To: Electric 
Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org> Cc: EV List Lackey 
<evp...@drmm.net> Subject: Re: [EVDL] 1000 x solar break through. On 28 Jun 
2022 at 10:18, Peter Eckhoff via EV wrote:> Might be that it's 1000% better 
than silicon on a $/kw basis.> didn't have time to read the article.The posted 
article is *not* saying that the experimental device is "1000% better than 
silicon."  It says, "Researchers at Martin Luther University Halle-Wittenberg 
achieved an increase in the photovoltaic effect of ferroelectric crystals by a 
factor of 10 by creating crystalline layers of barium titanate, strontium 
titanate and calcium titanate, which they alternately placed on top of one 
another."They discovered a possible theoretical improvement in ferroelectric 
PV. Whether that will prove useful in real-world application remains to be 
seen.I'm not an electrical engineer, so I'm not qualified to judge the value of 
this research.  However, what little I've read suggests that there's been quite 
a lot of work lately on ferroelectric PV. This 
pagehttps://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aat3438says that "Ferroelectric 
materials for photovoltaics have sparked great interest because of their 
switchable photoelectric responses and above-bandgap photovoltages that violate 
conventional photovoltaic theory. However, their relatively low photocurrent 
and power conversion efficiency limit their potential application in solar 
cells."So this is just one of many projects looking for ways to improve the 
efficiency of ferroelectric PV, which I read somewhere is typically around 
2%.Is thist a "breakthrough"?  Who knows?  At the moment the article title is 
pure clickbait.As for whether "it's the end of fossil fuels," it's probably 
not.  Slipping on my tinfoil hat here, even a 100% efficient PV device wouldn't 
be the end of fossil fuels.  As long as there's a drop of oil left and money to 
be made from it, the petrocriminals will keep pumping the oil up, the money in, 
and the CO2 out.David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackeyTo reach me, don't 
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