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Today's Topics:
1. Re: FS: GE ElecTrak Rototiller - Complete (unityc...@uninets.net)
2. Nissan Leaf battery upgrades: 2012 Leaf with 250 miles range.
(Cor van de Water)
3. Re: FS: GE ElecTrak Rototiller - Complete (Mr. Sharkey)
4. Re: Nissan Leaf battery upgrades: 2012 Leaf with 250 miles
range. (David Nelson)
5. Re: Nissan Leaf battery upgrades: 2012 Leaf with 250 miles
range. (John Lussmyer)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 20:40:40 -0500
From: unityc...@uninets.net
To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] FS: GE ElecTrak Rototiller - Complete
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Being fairly new (6 mo. or so) to this list, I haven't yet gotten a sense
what is completely inappropriate and what is tolerated. so far, I have
found it to be interesting and occasionally informative. Seeing this
posting reminds me of a co-worker in Portland OR who was very into EVs in
the early 1980's. We used a GE ElectTrak to move disabled ICE vehicles
around the lot. A great little machine in it's day. His name certainly
wasn't Sharkey but if my recollection rings a bell, please let me know.
On Tue, March 15, 2022 9:55 pm, Mr. Sharkey via EV wrote:
> Acknowledging that this might not be the most fruitful place to
list
> this item for sale, offered is a Brinley Hines
electrically-powered
> rototiller with all necessary accessories
to bolt up to a General
> Electric ElecTrak garden tractor.
>
> Includes the tiller, which has few operating hours on it,
the drawbar
> that bolts on the frame of the tractor and the
electric winch to
> raise and lower the implement during use and
transport as well as the
> original factory manual. The tiller has
been kept in covered storage
> for the last 40 years, and aside
from the expected surface rust, is
> in fine condition. It could
probably stand to have the V-belt
> replaced, and new paint if you
are fussy.
>
> First $495.00 takes it. Located in
Portland, Oregon. Local pickup is
> always free, otherwise, can be
palletized and shipped motor freight
> at the purchaser's
expense.
>
> Also available: The carcass of my old
ElecTrak E-12, in case you
> can't turn down the great deal on the
tiller and need a tractor to
> restore to use it with.
>
> Photos upon request.
>
>
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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 22:13:50 -0700
From: Cor van de Water <cor.vandewa...@gmail.com>
To: Evdl list <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Subject: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf battery upgrades: 2012 Leaf with 250 miles
range.
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Hi gang,
Just a short report on one of my new exploits with Nissan Leaf batteries.
About 5 years ago I installed 2 used Leaf packs in my US Electricar
(Chevy S10 conversion) and it has been a very useful vehicle still
today, due to the used (deteriorated, but cheap) packs the truck
started with 100 miles of range (about 35kWh combined capacity from
the two original 24kWh packs, each at that time between 70-75%
capacity). I am repeating this with a second US Electricar but I had
the opportunity to escape to another project that I wanted to do for
some time:
This last weekend I worked on a 2012 Leaf that I bought last month for
this purpose: Installing a 62kWh pack that was salvaged from a crashed
2019 Leaf.
There are two major incompatibilities: the pack is taller (by 40mm)
and the Leaf accepts only the original battery ID as valid to be able
to drive the car normal.
The first is not a major issue - just get some longer bolts and not be
afraid to drill 2 new holes for a mounting position in the middle of
the side where the new pack does not line up.
That means the pack sites lower than the original 2012 pack, but that
is OK. Just slightly less clearance.
The second issue can be solved by deploying a "man in the middle" in
the CAN bus between car and battery. I got a CAN bridge from Dala in
Finland, programmed it with the code created by Muxsan (who also
installs battery extenders in Leafs in The Netherlands) and placed it
in-line with the battery CAN bus.
Success! I now have approx 250 mile range on my 2012 Leaf, so it is
ready for its 2nd life, starting with less than 100k on the Odometer
achieved with the original 24kWh battery that was deteriorated from 80
to 22 mile range.
Cor.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2022 22:10:26 -0700
From: "Mr. Sharkey" <mrshar...@juno.com>
To: ev@lists.evdl.org
Subject: Re: [EVDL] FS: GE ElecTrak Rototiller - Complete
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> We used a GE ElectTrak to move disabled ICE vehicles
> around the lot. A great little machine in it's day.
> His name certainly wasn't Sharkey...
This EVDL is somewhat tolerant of chit-chat if it's EV related, and
ElecTrak topics are fully permissible, especially since many members
and some of the administration either currently or previously have owned them.
The tiller is in PDX, but I'm three hours away in Florence. The
friend who took the tiller up to the Big Smoke thought that having it
up there would make it more attractive to local pickup, or make for
cheaper freight, as there wouldn't be the transportation from the
coast to add to the expense.
This friend may not be the person your are familiar with, but I'd be
betting that he probably knows that person, as he has been active in
EV ownership and such since the 1970's. I actually bought two of the
three ElecTraks's I've owned from him, as well as the EV that I
currently drive, back in 1998.
Interesting aside: John Wayland once test drove my Rabbit EV when it
was for sale in Portland, and pronounced it to be "awful". Too bad,
he missed out on a vehicle with 5,000 original miles that had always
been garaged. I guess it wasn't Datsun enough for him :-)
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 11:39:03 -0700
From: David Nelson <gizm...@gmail.com>
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf battery upgrades: 2012 Leaf with 250
miles range.
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That is awesome! Someone did something similar to a 2016 Kia Soul EV
and found that the GOM would only display a little over 150 miles,
does the LEAF display show the 250 mile range or something else?
On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:14 PM Cor van de Water via EV
<ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>
> Hi gang,
> Just a short report on one of my new exploits with Nissan Leaf batteries.
> About 5 years ago I installed 2 used Leaf packs in my US Electricar
> (Chevy S10 conversion) and it has been a very useful vehicle still
> today, due to the used (deteriorated, but cheap) packs the truck
> started with 100 miles of range (about 35kWh combined capacity from
> the two original 24kWh packs, each at that time between 70-75%
> capacity). I am repeating this with a second US Electricar but I had
> the opportunity to escape to another project that I wanted to do for
> some time:
>
> This last weekend I worked on a 2012 Leaf that I bought last month for
> this purpose: Installing a 62kWh pack that was salvaged from a crashed
> 2019 Leaf.
> There are two major incompatibilities: the pack is taller (by 40mm)
> and the Leaf accepts only the original battery ID as valid to be able
> to drive the car normal.
> The first is not a major issue - just get some longer bolts and not be
> afraid to drill 2 new holes for a mounting position in the middle of
> the side where the new pack does not line up.
> That means the pack sites lower than the original 2012 pack, but that
> is OK. Just slightly less clearance.
>
> The second issue can be solved by deploying a "man in the middle" in
> the CAN bus between car and battery. I got a CAN bridge from Dala in
> Finland, programmed it with the code created by Muxsan (who also
> installs battery extenders in Leafs in The Netherlands) and placed it
> in-line with the battery CAN bus.
>
> Success! I now have approx 250 mile range on my 2012 Leaf, so it is
> ready for its 2nd life, starting with less than 100k on the Odometer
> achieved with the original 24kWh battery that was deteriorated from 80
> to 22 mile range.
> Cor.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2022 12:05:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Lussmyer <cou...@casadelgato.com>
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <ev@lists.evdl.org>
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Nissan Leaf battery upgrades: 2012 Leaf with 250
miles range.
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>On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 10:14 PM Cor van de Water via EV
><ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote:
>>
>> This last weekend I worked on a 2012 Leaf that I bought last month for
>> this purpose: Installing a 62kWh pack that was salvaged from a crashed
>> 2019 Leaf.
ooohh, wonder if I can find 2 or 3 of those newer Leaf packs.
My F250 is using 120 old old Leaf modules, probably down to less than 40KWH.
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