Yep, big issue here. - Mark
Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On Feb 12, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Haudy Kazemi via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > One must be careful about looking at industrial rates. They generally have > a separate energy fee and power (demand) fee. The energy fee can easily be > far less than a fixed home rate...i.e. that 1/2 or 2/3s price. > > But the demand fee can be enormous, as it is usually based on the 15 minute > period of highest usage during the month. Charging an EV, like a Model S, > at 100 kW for 15 minutes, means you will pay the demand charge as if you > used 100 kW continuously for the whole month, even though you only used it > for 15 minutes (25 kWh). > > Storage is the main way to mitigate demand fees. A few EV stations have on > site storage just for this reason. > > > >> On Sat, Feb 12, 2022, 13:29 Mark Abramowitz via EV <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Interesting article. >> >> Your info on rates, though, may be where you are, but not everywhere. I >> can’t tell you what the rates are here, but know that chargers get >> subsidized rates. >> >> - Mark >> >> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone >> >>> On Feb 12, 2022, at 10:38 AM, Mark Hanson via EV <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Since fast chargers are connected to a 480 3 phase industrial feed, >> they generally get the industrial rate, less than the 12.6cents residential >> rate (typically 1/2-2/3rds residential) Tesla then charges 28-35cents per >> KWh and VW (Electrify America) 43cents per KWh. >>> >> https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1134762_fast-chargers-are-almost-as-profitable-as-gasoline-pumps-claims-bp-executive >>> Stay Charged, >>> Mark in Roanoke >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Address messages to [email protected] >>> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Address messages to [email protected] >> No other addresses in TO and CC fields >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20220212/f47a80fc/attachment.html> > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > _______________________________________________ Address messages to [email protected] No other addresses in TO and CC fields UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org
