I didn’t scroll far enough on my phone.

In the spring, when most occurs, it’s mostly “Economic”, either local or 
systemwide.

- Mark

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> On Sep 1, 2021, at 4:56 PM, Mark Abramowitz <[email protected]> wrote:
> I would check either an annual report, or a report from the spring, when 
> most of the curtailments occur. I don’t know the details…
> 
> - Mark
> 
> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 1, 2021, at 3:40 PM, Haudy Kazemi via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Here is the daily CAISO report.
>> 
>> http://www.caiso.com/PublishedDocuments/WindSolarCurtailmentReport.pdf
>> 
>> It shows that the vast majority of curtailment events is due to local
>> system congestion, and not because of demand.
>> 
>> I expect that remotely-positioned MW-scale solar farms are much more
>> susceptible to congestion issues than rooftop solar. I'm also not sure that
>> rooftop-scale solar supports curtailment.
>> 
>> On-site production allows for on-site self consumption, without tieing up a
>> capacity on the local/regional grid. On-site production with storage
>> further increases the time period where a site can operate without
>> depending on the local/regional grid.
>> 
>> Energy storage at the production sites would improve the match between
>> production supply and transmission capacity.
>> 
>> Energy storage near customers would improve the match between distribution
>> capacity and customer demand.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 12:41 Mark Abramowitz via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Southern California commonly sends its excess to Arizona - sometimes we
>>> have to pay them to take it. Every year we curtail lots of renewables.
>>> CaISO tracks how much.
>>> - Mark
>>> Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone
>>>> On Sep 1, 2021, at 10:15 AM, Jan Steinman via EV <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: "Peri Hartman" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>>> If, for example, southern cali has excess
>>>>> PV generation, it will need to ship that energy somewhere pretty far
>>>>> away, say oregon or washington. That would require a pretty substantial
>>>>> transmission line. I don't think the existing lines are sufficient.
>>>> The Pacific Intertie is a 600,000 volt DC line that stretches from
>>> Washingon to SoCal. I think it can handle enough power for a minor city.
>>>> Jan
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