Tesla hasn't changed anything but software since 2017 in the drive unit. If they do change something, I'm pretty confident they will keep the same mechanicals, so it will be backwards compatible. The pack has gotten larger in capacity, but mechanically the same.
The project is working now, we have more orders than we can fill right now! https://maxwellvehicles.com/ On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 6:46 PM Mark Abramowitz via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > Fascinating idea, but even if you used commodity parts, don’t they change > anyway over time? > > What’s the current status of those parts that you used, and of the project? > > - Mark > > Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > > > On Aug 1, 2021, at 9:39 AM, (-Phil-) via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > This was our philosophy when we developed our electric van at Maxwell. > We > > wanted to make sure that all parts we used are not only the most robust > and > > efficient ones available, but also readily available and will be for > years > > into the future. We started with a base vehicle that's available > > world-wide. Our target market is fleet customers and they would be very > > reluctant to own something that was hard to maintain because parts are > hard > > to get. We also designed the whole system so everything is easily > > accessible and quick to swap. The entire powertrain with all EV > components > > (other than the battery) can easily pop out of the vehicle with only 3 > > mount points. We call this the "superframe". If we are dealing with a > > remote service issue, we can just ship them a whole replacement > superframe > > on a pallet, which they can swap in quickly, then return the old one to > us > > for service. Even though we have excellent diagnostics, this makes it > > easy to quickly quash something like an intermittent problem that may be > > experienced by a mechanic without a lot of EV experience. We also used > the > > best EV drivetrain on the market, the most efficient one, the most proven > > one, and the one with the most production globally. (The same one used > in > > the Tesla Model 3 and Model Y) > > > >> On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 6:44 AM Collin Kidder via EV <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > >> That does lead to another potential idea, though. What if an open > >> source design specifically called for OEM parts that *ARE* easily > >> available and cheap? This isn't so far-fetched or weird. Tesla uses > >> Mercedes steering systems and a Ford accelerator pedal. They probably > >> use other parts from existing cars that I'm just not aware of. What if > >> an open design used parts from other cars and the real open source > >> magic was the layout that integrates it all together? I have no idea > >> if a frame could reasonably be constructed custom. But, existing OEM > >> frames and/or rolling chassis do exist. Control systems for OEM > >> components also already exist. The OpenInverter project has a lot of > >> custom boards to control things from Tesla, Nissan, etc. > >> > >> The big problem here is probably one of scalability. You can put the > >> plans together and tell people to buy a Bosch iBooster for their > >> breaks and a Mercedes steering rack, ford accelerator pedal, Nissan > >> Leaf drivetrain with an OpenInverter control board, etc, but can 100 > >> people actually get those parts? 1000 people? These things exist but > >> can they be found in sufficient quantities to make it worthwhile to > >> do? > >> > >>> On Sat, Jul 31, 2021 at 4:56 PM Lawrence Rhodes via EV > >>> <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> Nice sentiment boss man but in mass production a power window is > cheaper > >> to engineer and produce than a crank up window unless you use the old > >> fashion railway windows you lift up and down by muscle gravity...you > might > >> not know what I'm talking about these are so old. So the idea of > >> simplifying in the way you think is again going back to the notion of > >> carrying a horse with you in case you run out of gas. The cost of our > >> gadgets is trivial in mass production. Might as well go with it. I can > >> replace my electric power mirrors for $20. When it malfunctions or > breaks > >> off I replace it. Three 10mm nuts. EVerything on cars is like that now. > All > >> neatly in a row with a part number and made in the millions. Available > on > >> eBay.com. The only thing I wish for is no proprietary parts. When you > want > >> a turn signal just one assembly. Bumper one assembly...etc..air > >> conditioning unit...one choice...would be a lot cheaper and easier. > >> Lawrence Rhodes > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Address messages to [email protected] > >>> No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >>> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Address messages to [email protected] > >> No other addresses in TO and CC fields > >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > >> LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > >> > > -------------- next part -------------- > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > > URL: < > http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20210801/46c5dd1b/attachment.html > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Address messages to [email protected] > > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > > > _______________________________________________ > Address messages to [email protected] > No other addresses in TO and CC fields > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/ > LIST INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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