Under today’s technology, it’s worse than that. There are not anywhere near 
enough known reserves for the needs being projected under an “all battery“ 
scenario.


- Mark

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> On Apr 4, 2021, at 1:08 PM, (-Phil-) via EV <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I keep mentioning it, but most people apparently don't get it:
> 
> The biggest problem is there simply isn't enough battery production
> capacity to convert the whole fleet to 100% electric yet.
> 
> It's a classic chicken and egg problem; battery production has a long tail
> requiring more mining and refining capacity, which nobody will build
> overnight.
> 
> Even Tesla says despite their best planning; they are production
> constrained because of battery cells.
> 
> This is why a true hybrid (plug in) can help bridge the gap.  I advocate
> for 100% EV adoption, and have been doing so for over 30 years before there
> were any production EVs, but sadly this problem still exists.
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Apr 4, 2021 at 11:46 AM EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4 Apr 2021 at 14:23, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote:
>>> 
>>> During my EV eganguelising I am forever correcting people who think a
>>> hybrid is an EV.  It is not. But a plugin hybrid is.  We have to
>>> correct those mistakes wherever they occur.
>> 
>> I've been fighting this battle since the Piius came out in 1997.  It's
>> futile, and by now I'm sure that most of you are rolling your eyes, but I
>> just can't seem to let it go.
>> 
>> IMO if all of a vehicle's motive energy comes from fuel burned in an ICE,
>> it's not a hybrid, period.  Vehicles such as the Prius are essentially
>> somewhat feeble ICEVs made more powerful with electric superchargers.
>> 
>> I had a long argu - uh, discussion with a mechanic a while back.  He
>> declared that the quasi-hybrids like the Prius were pointless because "by
>> the time I work on them they're all running totally on their gas engines."
>> Well, duh!  I tried to explain that that's the way they're SUPPOSED to
>> run,
>> but he wasn't having it.
>> 
>> Twenty+ years ago, some of us thought that the quasi-hybrids (then just
>> the
>> Toyota Prius and Honda Insight) might be useful for getting "normal"
>> vehicle
>> buyers accustomed to the idea of EVs.  You may disagree, but I don't think
>> that they did much. What DID get real world ICE-heads thinking that EVs
>> might be OK was the Tesla S.
>> 
>> David Roden, EVDL moderator & general lackey
>> 
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