Distributed generation incentive that reduces the need for grid capacity and maintenance?
- Mark Sent from my Fuel Cell powered iPhone > On May 20, 2020, at 8:00 AM, Robert Bruninga via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > What is amazing to me is that Maryland offers Tax credits for Home storage > up to $5k. But ONLY if it is independent for b ackup and not connected to > the grid! Clearly their "green" guys had no clue. I can see no > environmental benefit to home standby batteries, compared to grid-tied peak > supply. > > Maybe one advantage is simply increased battery purchases to help bring long > term costs down, but that is something like a 2nd or 3rd order benefit. > > -----Original Message----- > From: EV <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Peri Hartman via EV > Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2020 9:55 AM > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> > Cc: Peri Hartman <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G > > At some point, we're going to need lots of grid storage. Right now, the mix > of wind and solar is relatively low. But as that increases, we'll need > storage capacity to span non generative periods. During transition, we can > still rely on natural gas power plants and others. Eventually, we'll simply > need storage, and lots of it. There are various forms of storage, such as > hydro, flywheel, hydrogen, or battery. > > Having distributed battery storage sounds like a good part of the mix, to > me. Whether they're individually owned or provided by the energy company, > we'll see. Probably a bunch of options will appear. And we'll see a bunch of > different scales of storage: homeowner, business complex, substation, energy > plant. > > Peri > > << Want to know about the effects of leaf blowers ? > https://quietcleanseattle.org/ >> > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "paul dove via EV" <[email protected]> > To: "Electric Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Cc: "paul dove" <[email protected]> > Sent: 20-May-20 5:03:34 AM > Subject: Re: [EVDL] pack-aging: Tesla has V2G > >> I would consider it if I had a million mile battery also if Tesla owned the >> battery so that when the range dropped I get it replaced free. >> >> You can save a lot of money with DIY or just owning your own power >> generation maybe in the long run but lots of people will pay more gladly if >> someone else is in charge of keeping it operational. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 19, 2020, at 10:59 PM, Alan Arrison via EV <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> People don't care about feeding the grid, they want to be able to use >>> their big battery to run their house when the grid goes down. Oops, this >>> would kill sales of their powerwall. >>> >>>>> On 5/19/2020 9:28 PM, evln via EV wrote: >>>>> Here what I was going to post, read: >>>>> >>>>> https://electrek.co/2020/05/19/tesla-bidirectional-charging-ready-gam >>>>> e-changing-features/ >>>>> Tesla quietly adds bidirectional charging capability for >>>>> game-changing new >>>>> features >>>>> May. 19th 2020 ... Both CEO Elon Musk and cofounder and former CTO >>>>> JB >>>>> Straubel have expressed concerns about enabling bidirectional >>>>> charging in >>>>> Tesla vehicles due to the potential of accelerated battery >>>>> degradation and >>>>> also the moderate value with a relatively small fleet. In a recent >>>>> filing >>>>> with the Texas electric utility commission in which Tesla was >>>>> responding to >>>>> questions about how electric utilities should approach electric >>>>> vehicles, >>>>> the automaker summarized its view of vehicle to grid technology: ... >>>>> https://electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2020/05/Nissan-bidirec >>>>> tional-charging.jpg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> For EVLN EV-newswire posts view: >>>>> http://www.evdl.org/archive/ >>>>> https://mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> {brucedp.neocities.org} >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Sent from: >>>>> http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/ >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>>>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >>>>> INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>>>> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >>>>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >>> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >>> INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >>> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >>> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub >> ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html >> INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org >> Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA >> (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) >> > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html > INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub ARCHIVE: http://www.evdl.org/archive/index.html INFO: http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
