I've always thought a dump charge would be appropriate for this
situation. All you really need is enough kWh to get the vehicle to a
nearby charging station. There are exceptions, of course, but we're
probably talking about less than 5 miles in general.
So, even something as small as 10kWh mounted in a small van or flatbed
(EV, of course) would do the trick. As long as the service vehicle pack
stayed between 20%-80% charge, it should be able sustain high currents,
right?
Since we don't have AVs yet, time is premium. Get the job done in 5
minutes and the customer's happy and the boss is happy.
Peri
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From: "brucedp5 via EV" <[email protected]>
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Cc: "brucedp5" <[email protected]>
Sent: 15-Jan-19 6:33:20 PM
Subject: [EVDL] Watt-if: Remote L3 recharging service (Can this be
provided?)
% The newswire item below is not about EVs. Its about an ice service that
will come out in a service ice-pu-truck and refuel your non-EV.
My point in posting this is what would it take to create a service like this
for EVs? Below are links on how this might be accomplished.
Imagine for an app fee, a service vehicle would come to your EV and provide
it a level-3 (L3) charge. There are likely other services that could also be
provided (see yoshi's site) but IMO the biggest need is getting a charge.
L2 is too slow. With 250+mi EVs, even half-powered L3-25kW would likely take
too long for the service truck to make its daily appointment rounds. A 40+kW
L3 service truck would be a minimum charging power.
A quick way to slap this together is what AAA did (see links below), with a
30kW genset in the back of the pu-truck providing 15-20kW. I had first had
experience of this
http://brucedp13.20m.com/eaasvr2013/
at a Silicon Valley NDEW Rally (see bottom of page).
Another more efficient design would be to use the PTO (power take off) from
a truck's ice to power a 60kW generator for a dual CHAdeMO & ccs L3 EVSE.
Either generator could run off either bio-diesel, cng or LPG (bio-sourced,
cleaner) fuels. I think this L3 recharge service would be useful. %
https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/imagine-being-able-to-avoid-pumping-gas-ever-again-and-were-not-talking-about-electric-cars/95-a90cc94f-1d85-435a-9fc7-443defe479f1
Imagine being able to avoid pumping gas ever again? And we’re not talking
about electric cars!
January 11, 2019 Danielle Serino
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A new company will bring fuel right to you, plus deliver a number of
competitively priced car services.
We're all strapped for time these days.
Sometimes, that means putting off getting your car serviced. Or maybe
waiting until the last minute to fill up your gas tank.
But a new service, co-founded by Nick Alexander from Kent, is bringing the
garage directly to you.
And it’s something Northeast Ohio resident Susan Kennedy jumped on. Not only
does she hate standing outside in the cold pumping gas, she doesn’t have the
time to do it.
"I work full time. I have 2 kids. And I pick them up from a grandparent each
night. So, I don't really want to have to stop at a gas station if I don’t
have to," she says.
That’s why she subscribed to Yoshi, which in Japanese means ‘Good Luck. Keep
Moving’.
For $16 dollars a month, she gets regular or premium gas delivered right to
her car, wherever she wants and as often as she wants.
The cost per gallon? The same as the lowest priced station in her zip code.
And Yoshi Co-Founder Bryan Frist tells us, "We're the cheapest, but probably
the highest quality. One of our largest investors is Exxon mobile. And when
they invested, we committed to carrying only their Top Tier Synergy fuel."
Now, if that's not enough to get your engine going, the price per gallon
drops if you get additional services.
They have a number of a la carte offerings: Everything from interior and
exterior car washes, to a complete detail, which earns you a free tank of
gas.
And if you need maintenance, they can do things like change your oil, even
replace worn wiper blades.
"Let's say you get your tire checked, for example, you get 20 cents off your
per gallon price," Frist explains.
The company claims its average customer saves $240 dollars on gas per year,
and gains back about 33 hours of time.
Frist says, "You can imagine the last time you went to get your oil changed,
you’re sitting inside a grungy room waiting. All that time you can get
back."
And anything that keeps Susan from hitting empty at an inopportune time is
worth it.
"At the very beginning I was given a $25 credit. So, that I would get $5
dollars off every tank of gas I got. So, the first month I was making money
and I still haven't pumped gas."
The company is offering a 30 day free trial. New customers get a $50 credit,
which is basically $10 off your first 5 fill ups.
And here’s a fun fact. All of their trucks are named for people involved in
the business. That includes one called Kevin, for NBA star Kevin Durant.
Yoshi operates in 20 cities across the country and plans to expand. They
also have corporate clients who offer Yoshi as a benefit to their employees.
For more information, click here: https://www.startyoshi.com/
[© wkyc.com]
https://electrek.co/2016/09/06/aaa-ev-emergency-charging-truck/
AAA says that its emergency electric vehicle charging trucks served
“thousands” of EVs without power
Sep 6, 2016 - AAA says that its emergency electric vehicle charging trucks
served ... The service ... AAA has been ahead of the curve with its
emergency electric vehicle charging service, which has been available since
2011. Seeing EVs as the future, the organization is sticking with the
program despite the relatively low number of service calls ...
https://i0.wp.com/electrek.co/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2016/09/aaa-charging-truck.png
https://www.fastcompany.com/1678177/aaa-is-now-providing-emergency-electric-vehicle-charging-services-to-stranded-drivers
Now Providing Emergency Electric-Vehicle Charging Services To Stranded
Drivers
Jun 23, 2011 - If your EV stutters to a halt while you’re cruising down the
highway, call the same people who fix flats on your regular car. And more
mobile charging options may soon be coming to your street ... And more
mobile charging options may soon be coming to your street.
https://a.fastcompany.net/upload/110606-01-01.jpg
https://www.google.com/search?q=emergency+electric+vehicle+charging
https://electriccarsreport.com/2019/01/clever-and-e-on-form-jv-for-ultra-fast-ev-chargers/
Clever and E.ON form JV for ultra-fast EV chargers
“This joint venture is proof point of the e-mobility ecosystem at work,
where governments, competitors and industries work to...
https://electriccarsreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/01/Clever.jpg
https://www.electricgeneratorsdirect.com/Winco-50PTOC-3-PTO-Generator/p1189.html
Winco 50PTOC-3 - 50 kW Tractor-Driven PTO Generator (540 RPM)
https://www.google.com/search?q=diesel+cng+truck+dual
https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200646644_200646644?cm_mmc=Google-pla&utm_source=Google_PLA&utm_medium=Generators%20%3E%20Home%20Standby%20Generators&utm_campaign=Generac&utm_content=48916&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjPbCg8zn3wIVAeDICh3ywg6GEAQYCCABEgIzCvD_BwE
https://www.slashgear.com/gm-chevrolet-bolt-ev-charging-evgo-chargepoint-greenlots-electric-cadillac-11561463/
This is GM's fix for EV charging headaches
Jan 11, 2019 GM is building a simpler way to charge its electric cars,
cutting through the ... a deal with EVgo for a dedicated DC fast charge
network for the Chevrolet Bolt EV.
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http://evdl.org/archive/
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