Thanks Bill,

 

That's good to know you operated the van with A123 cells for 10 years.  I
tried the pull start cord on the 60HP 1000C engine but no-way I could pull
it fast enough, just got one revolution.  I have a similar RC charger I use
for Ben's Battlebots, could try and I bought a $70 individual cell charger
with the battery.

 

 

 

Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 12:23:25 +1200

From: Bill Dube <billd...@killacycle.com>

To: ev@lists.evdl.org

Subject: Re: [EVDL] Shorai LiFePO4 LFX36L3-BS12 Longevity Reviews

Message-ID: <997d32c0-9ab7-ca12-5397-bb6023a02...@killacycle.com>

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On 8/13/2018 11:31 AM, Bobby Keeland via EV wrote:

> Mark Hanson asked "curious if LiFePO4 dies suddenly or gradually like 

> lead."

> 

 

??? The cranking power (specific power, internal resistance) stays
relatively flat over the lifespan, at least in A123's. The capacity
(specific energy) declines slowly of the life span. They "die" when they
don't have the energy needed to crank for sufficient time, which tends to
happen suddenly when you reach that threshold. The battery doesn't die
suddenly, but its capacity is suddenly inadequate. It won't, for example,
crank the extra time needed to start a cold engine.

 

??? I built a 4S3P 12 volt battery for my ICE van out of A123 cordless tool
cells. It lasted for about 10 years. Probably would have lasted longer had I
not left it at zero volts for several days a couple of times.

 

??? You can check the health (capacity) of the battery by periodically
putting it an RC type cell cycler, like a CellPro:

http://www.usastore.revolectrix.com/Products_2/Cellpro-Multi4_3/Cellpro-Mult
i4_1089

 

??? "Death" will then happen predictably, when you see that capacity begins
to approach whatever it takes to crank and start up your motor.

 

Bill D.

 

??? Does your engine have a pull start, or is it way to large for that?

 

 

Have a renewable energy day,

 

Mark

 

Mark E. Hanson

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