Our 2013 LEAF SV is still showing 12 bars of battery. It has more than
40,000 miles and handles 99% of our trips which are area roads and
highways. Fast charging is useful for extending its range on longer
trips, but we mostly charge at home as needed. With the auto-timed
charging it's charged and ready when we are.
The LEAF is our primary car. It's more fun to drive, quieter, quicker
and smoother acceleration, with NO oil changes, gas stations or pesky
ICE maintenance and stinky fumes.
We also have an older Prius for occasional road trips. It's less than
half as efficient as the LEAF but at least it beats most ICE cars. The
LEAF does what we need it to do, as does, for now, the Prius, which will
eventually be replaced in its role by a Model 3 or equivalent.
I liked the IMEV but it didn't quite have the range for our primary
vehicle needs. Of course needs vary; our LEAF wouldn't work for some
people but it works well for us. Newer longer range LEAFs and cars like
the Bolt and Model 3 open the door for more people to appreciate the
benefits of driving electric. Good times.
Cheers,
-Jamie
On 8/11/18 4:49 PM, Willie via EV wrote:
On 08/11/2018 12:15 PM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote:
We have had three Leafs. The 2012 Leaf had a bad battery. We turned
it back in. Our 2013 Leaf has normal battery degradation. We can
still eek out a hundred miles range on the freeway. This is at 42k
miles. Still very useful. Our 2016 Nissan is still showing 150 miles
range at times and this is driven miles plus guessometer. On our last
trip to Southern California from San Francisco we went from Salinas
to San Luis Obispo 135 miles and still had 20 percent left. The 30
kw Leaf is fantastic. The IMEV simply in it's original configuration
does not meet our needs Nissan has made the effort to improve the
batteries of their cars. The IMEV in my opinion is an embarrassment
to the EV design community. We paid 14k for the 2013 with 2,600 miles
on the clock. The 30kw was EVen better at 13,550. We will buy this
car after the lease. Sorry you had a bad experience with your Leaf
but almost everyone with a 2011 or 2012 had a bad experience. We also
needed fast charging. I don't believe the IMEV has fast charging.
The IMEV is a putt putt for city use similar to a smart car. Every
car has it's mission but to compare an IMEV to a Nissan Leaf is to
compare a Nissan Leaf to a Tesla. In price/performance the Leaf is a
clear winner. It gets me where I want to go. It is comfortable. It
is inexpensive. I don't care how it looks David. I just wish it had
the aerodynamics of a Hyundai. Lawrence Rhodes
You don't mention personal experience with an imiev.
Is "putt put" intended to be derogatory?
I thought Leafs were 80kw. Are they now offering a low power model to
increase efficiency?
Both my imievs have standard chademo charging though I almost never use
it. Chademo charging was, I believe, a $700 option on my Leaf. I did
not buy it.
I use my imievs to travel rural roads to towns up to about 30 miles
distant. I typically drive below 60 mph to maximize range. But they
will go 80 mph or so. They are very rarely driven in a city.
I have a fair amount of experience with the three cars mentioned.
Clearly, a Tesla is superior to an imiev. But, IMHO, both Teslas and
imievs are superior to Leafs in all ways that I care about. My low Leaf
rating is due to unreliability and lack of support. Mitsubishi may well
have the same support problems as Nissan but I've never needed imiev
support.
Of course, we all make our own judgments. And you are welcome to yours.
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