118 miles. 4 grades. A detour. A CHP stop. 8 percent charge left. 10 miles range. Lawrence Rhodes. 30 kw Leaf is so much more useful than the 24kw version.
Sent from my MetroPCS 4G LTE Android device On Feb 18, 2017 1:03 PM, via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Send EV mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of EV digest..." > > > Also, please be careful not to append the entire digest to your reply. Many > mail systems do this by default. Trim or delete the digest text from the > bottom of your message, and quote only the parts to which you're replying. > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Smart EV Only Car (mark hanson via EV) > 2. (congrats& ouch): Wonderful 25 min. EV DOCUMENTARY > (brucedp5 via EV) > 3. EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170218 (brucedp5 via EV) > 4. Seeking> SF-CA Peninsula Electrician with EVSE experience > (brucedp5 via EV) > 5. Re: Seeking> SF-CA Peninsula Electrician with EVSE experience > (Willie via EV) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:52:16 -0500 > From: mark hanson via EV <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: [EVDL] Smart EV Only Car > Message-ID: <003601d28989$a331cb00$e9956100$@com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi Bruce etc, > > > > So with an EV only Smart (my original EV choice) will they *drop* the > requirement to pay an additional $5K for the "not included" battery or pay > monthly surprise battery rental fees? Also the crappy 50K 4 year battery > warranty needs to match other EVs at 100K 8 years. The other reason I > ultimately decided to buy a Leaf & Spark instead is that I *couldn't* get a > shop/service manual (got on Leaf & Spark) or monitor the individual cell > voltages (like the Leaf with LeafSpy). Will you be able to get a *service* > manual now and be able to see cell voltages & fault codes like other EV's? > They don't talk about any of this in reviews such as Car & Driver, Consumer > Reports etc that have evaluated the Smart EV. I'm glad to see they're > focusing on EV's but if they maintain their anti-EV marketing they won't > sell many. The local Mercedes dealer said they won't have *anything* to do > with them. They need to sell through someone else, Mercedes just wants to > support high end foo-foo pricey cars. > > > > Message: 7 > > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 03:56:51 -0800 (PST) > > From: brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170217 > > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Brave-Auto > bahn-de-rescue-uses-Tesla-S-EV-to-stop-an-old-ill-VW-ice-driver-td4685810.ht > ml > > EVLN: Brave Autobahn.de rescue uses Tesla-S EV to stop an old,ill VW ice > driver Tesla driver 'saves lives' with amazing Autobahn rescue maneuver Upon > overtaking the vehicle, he saw that its 50-year-old driver was in serious > trouble ... applied pressure to his brakes, allowing the little car to crash > into him from behind ... > > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Smart-EV-u > s-amp-ca-sales-Live-On-gt-Smart-ice-Bites-the-Dust-cheap-oil-victim-td468580 > 9.html > > EVLN: Smart EV .us& .ca sales Live-On> Smart ice Bites the Dust (cheap oil > > victim) > > Smart drops engines; to be EV-only brand in the US Daimler's Smart brand > will soon be an electric-only marque in North America as it plans to stop > selling cars with internal ... combustion engine Smart cars in the US and > Canada ... > > > > > > Have a renewable energy day, > > > > Mark > > > > Mark E. Hanson > > 184 Vista Lane Fincastle, VA 24090 > > 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell > > REEVA: community service RE & EV project club > > Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) > > UL Certified PV Installer > > My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20170217/e174c0df/attachment.htm> > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:51:01 -0800 (PST) > From: brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [EVDL] (congrats& ouch): Wonderful 25 min. EV DOCUMENTARY > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > [Qualifier: I am only a little caffeinated. Today was my follow up visit at > that Dr that did some chisel, hammer& saw work on me last Monday (they said > I am healing OK, but it will be a couple weeks before it stops hurting, and > no, I got off the pain killers on the 2nd day). > > So, afterward I went over to E Motor Werks on the SF Peninsula to ask about > that 40 Pro EVSE the Dr. had (I will use a separate post for more details on > that). But I left with a better view of what I could do to help the Dr get > his EVSE up again (EVangel work is always a mild stimuli). > > After a couple of slips of strong Vietnamese iced coffee (all I can allow > myself), I also noticed I was still riding the quick, fast paced tech talk > buzz I had with the techies at EMW. That (snap, snap, snap the fingers) > quick paced, fast thinking dialog, had also left my brain in high gear. > So, with that in mind, please take the following with that, in perspective.] > > > There is definitely a difference in the life-pace between Seattle, WA and > other places that are running at such a high speed it is a wonder they do > not burn up, all the while they are in denial that their quick multitasking > life is not as good for a healthy family life or marriage as say, in Seattle > ... > > > I love all the efforts Steve and his local EV community has made, but whoa, > 25 minutes of slow, slow, slow, dry documentary ... ouch (like painful > dude). > > I tried speeding the video playback up (adjusting the youtube speed to max) > with the cc on so I could read what was said, but it was still hard to not > fall asleep ... just to see at the end of the very long clip the e-racer > waiting for its green light with an empty set of bleachers in the background > (no one was there to see them race ... zzz). > > I found a 1:30min trailer > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUleWXHaM3g > that I thought would cut-to-the-chase and show the best bits, but it too > was only a shorter version of a long slow documentary. From 0:57sec to > 1:07min was the only exciting part, and after having read: > > http://www.seattletimes.com/nwshowcase/automotive/high-school-students-get-a-charge-out-of-building-electric-racer/ > > http://www.bothell-reporter.com/life/northshore-automotive-students-set-electric-drag-racing-world-record/ > > of how great dual motors, 800V, 1000hp ... just to see the e-dragster > bounce up and down off the line like its suspension was too weak > (thankfully, I played it too at max speed so it looked like it was going > down the track as fast as a typical NEDRA e-dragster). > > Suggestion Steve, next time some one wants to do another video of the Shock > and Awe electric dragster, (IMO) get a better video crew to do the job up > right, and show off all the hard work that was put into it, in a way (or > pace) that does not lose its audience. > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/evln/ > > > {brucedp.neocities.org} > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Wonderful-25-min-EV-DOCUMENTARY-tp4685816p4685819.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 05:33:26 -0800 (PST) > From: brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [EVDL] EVLN: EV-newswire posts for 20170218 > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-Lucid-Air-EV-s-1st-WIP-prototype-snow-test-drive-gt-Happiest-Drifting-Luridly-v-td4685824.html > EVLN: Lucid Air EV's 1st WIP prototype snow test-drive> Happiest Drifting > Luridly (v) > Sideways-on-ice Lucid Motors Air is best Lucid Motors Air > The work-in-progress electric car has headed off to northern Minnesota for > winter testing, and while the automaker's primary concern is seeing how the > EV ... > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-160mph-Dubuc-ca-Tomahawk-EV-gt-6M-crowdfunded-seeking-20-r-370mi-v-td4685823.html > EVLN: 160mph Dubuc.ca Tomahawk EV> ($6M crowdfunded, seeking 20) r:370mi (v) > Dubuc Motors is still crowdfunding some sources for the newest electronic > sports car in town, the Tomahawk, but it's already receiving a lot of > noises. Well, it is ... > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-VW-Trademarks-E-Transporter-For-coming-e-Van-td4685822.html > EVLN: VW Trademarks E-Transporter For coming e-Van > There?s no word on when E-Transporter will come to market, but with this > being Volkswagen, every electric vehicle seems to be promised by ? > > + > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Free-to-use-22kW-Type-2-public-EVSE-BHPetrol-ice-stations-in-Kuala-Lumpur-my-td4685820.html > Free to use 22kW Type-2 public EVSE @BHPetrol ice-stations in > Kuala_Lumpur.my > BHPetrol opens EV charging stations in Kampung Sungai Kayu Ara, Sungai Besi > ... > ... The sole charger unit at each station is a Hager three-phase, 22kW AC > charger, which First Energy Networks says will fully charge a Renault Zoe in > approximately one hour ? > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/19-k-i3rex-pih-Recall-gt-Fire-Risk-from-its-ice-components-td4685821.html > 19+k i3rex pih Recall> (Fire Risk from its ice components) > 19130 BMW i3 REx Recalled In US Due To Fire Risk?Thanks To Its ... > ?BMW of North America, LLC (BMW) is recalling certain 2014-2017 i3 REx > hybrid electric vehicles. The fuel tank vent line may rub against the ribbed > wire ... (Damn ICE?s) > > > > > http://evdl.org/evln/ > For all EVLN EV-newswire posts > > > {brucedp.neocities.org} > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/EVLN-EV-newswire-posts-for-20170218-tp4685825.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 08:20:41 -0800 (PST) > From: brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: [EVDL] Seeking> SF-CA Peninsula Electrician with EVSE > experience > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > [ref > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/How-to-get-a-EMW-Juicebox-40-pro-EVSE-working-again-tp4685729.html > ] > > I have already contacted the three Electricians EMW had given me. They > expressed the Dr's Redwood City site was a long distance for them (out of > their normal territory). > > I remembered that the Silicon Valley EAA Chapter member Electrician that > helps set up the Chapter's NDEW connections at De Anza College, is based out > of Aptos (Santa Cruz) area, so that also is out of his normal turf (so I did > not bother him). > > I joined the Silicon Valley EAA's yahoo discussion group, but there is no > telling how long the group's owner will take to enable my membership > (allowing me to post). So, I sent the owner my post requesting members send > me what qualified Electricians they know. > > Since I have no idea how long that will take, I am placing this post on the > evdl requesting assistance of SF area locals that know of an EVSE qualified > Electrician they feel good about recommending that is interested in doing > work on the SF Peninsula (i.e.: a Redwood City job). > > The former Electrician that had originally installed the Dr's EMW 40 pro > EVSE incorrectly set the Dr up to use the breaker in the small breaker box > at the bottom of the parking sign pole, to turn the EVSE power on and off. > Weathering, and repeated powering on and off the breaker, made the breaker > wear-out and stop providing power to the EVSE (its dead-Jim). So there is a > good chance the EMW EVSE is OK, it just has no AC power, but some > Electrician corrections are needed to this setup (from cheap-n-cheesy, to > up-to-code) > > When on site, the Electrician will decide what is best, but their > Electrician task may require: > > -applying AC power to the existing parking-lot pole-mounted EMW 40 pro j1772 > EVSE to ensure it is working (if not, taking the EVSE to nearby San Carlos > EMW for a repair estimate, and also getting a price quote of a CS-40 > ClipperCreek outdoor EVSE to just replace the defective EMW 40 pro that is > out of warranty (the Dr. deciding which, as it is the Dr. will have to cover > either, a repair, or replacement cost) > > -the Electrician will need to rewire, revamp the setup (hopefully moving > some electrical equipment items indoors near the building's power panel if > possible leaving only the EVSE outdoors), adding a safety switch to the set > up so the Dr. will use the safety switch to turn AC power to the EVSE on and > off. > > -lastly the ordering and installing of a j1772 holster on the pole to make > it easy to secure the coupler, keeping it dry, clean, and off the ground. > > > The end goal is to have the Dr. plug in the Tesla EV when arriving at work, > go in the building to flip the safety switch to on, and the Dr's app will > show the EVSE charging his EV. When he is ready to leave, he turns the > safety switch to off, shutting off AC power to the EVSE (no outside EVSE > moochers), unplugs and leaves. > > > Either shoot me an email with the Electrician's contact detail directly, or > post it here. > > The time on this is needed soon as I would like to hook that Dr. up with the > Electrician (taking myself out of the loop) to let that Dr. be able to once > again L2 charge his Tesla-S 85 EV at work. > > > > > For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: > http://evdl.org/evln/ > > > {brucedp.neocities.org} > > -- > View this message in context: > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Seeking-SF-CA-Peninsula-Electrician-with-EVSE-experience-tp4685826.html > Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2017 11:01:42 -0600 > From: Willie via EV <[email protected]> > To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [EVDL] Seeking> SF-CA Peninsula Electrician with EVSE > experience > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > > > On 02/18/2017 10:20 AM, brucedp5 via EV wrote: > > > > > > [ref > > http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/How-to-get-a-EMW-Juicebox-40-pro-EVSE-working-again-tp4685729.html > > ] > > > > I have already contacted the three Electricians EMW had given me. They > > expressed the Dr's Redwood City site was a long distance for them (out of > > their normal territory). > > For a Tesla owner that does not wish to support the general EV > population, Tesla charging equipment is attractively priced. Probably > as your doctor knows. Tesla equipment will open the charge port without > doing so through the in-the-car display. That is, it is more > convenient to use. A "wall connector" is $500-$550 and will do up to 80 > amps. The installation manual says: > Note: The Wall Connector is approved for > outdoor use, but it is not designed for > complete immersion in liquid. Protection from > rain is recommended but not required. > > > ->I<- think the good doctor should not worry about "moochers", supply a > J1772 outlet, and do his little bit to help other EVers. > > ->I<- think breakers will likely serve better than "safety switches". > Breakers are pretty easily replaced and likely to be cheaper than other > types of switches. It is probably poor practice to use any high current > switch to frequently start or stop current flow. Relays in EVs and > EVSEs are designed for frequent use. > > Disclaimer: I am not an electrician but do a great deal of my farm > electric work. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > [email protected] > For general EVDL support, see http://evdl.org/help/ > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > > > ------------------------------ > > End of EV Digest, Vol 52, Issue 21 > ********************************** _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
