Tesla doesn't advertise either
From: Ron Porter via EV <[email protected]>
To: brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2017 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] What is a compliance car? : ... Bolt named top car ...
My opinion is that an EV from a mainstream ICE manufacturer is 'real' when I
see ads on TV and reviews by the regular car columnist in local papers. I give
companies like Tesla a pass because of their start up nature and the simple
fact that they don't do ICE.
Ron
------ Original message------From: brucedp5 via EV Date: Tue, Jan 10, 2017
22:12To: [email protected];Cc: Subject:[EVDL] What is a compliance car? : ...
Bolt named top car ...
[refhttp://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/Chevy-Bolt-named-top-car-in-N-America-tp4685382p4685412.html]That
post and its responses are really about what 'we each' think what a'compliance
car' is. I had this thought over a week ago when a news item tried to say the
Boltwas not a compliance car based on how many EVs GM 'had to' produce vs
howmany more GM said they were going to make.I know this topic could open a
'can of worms', but I think the definition ofcompliance car needs to be
re-evaluated. What was a compliance car in the1990's and 2000's, is much
different than today.A week ago I did a simple search:
https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+compliance+car It shows there are a
lot of different opinions out there. Some by thosethat would always like there
automaker company to be in the best light, byothers that actually would be
driving those EVs for the next 6+ years.Not unlike so many automakers, part of
GM's advertising budget is to use thepress to ma
nipulate public opinion. GM know's that what was said previously,can be easily
reversed as they believe the public has a 'short memory' andthat they, GM,
'know what is best' (not the buying public).The
searchhttps://www.google.com/search?q=bolt+electric+compliance+car shows how
upset the media was with GM's announcement that they will onlysell to CA and OR
first. Those are two states GM wants mandate credits so asto sell ice. That
shift from telling the public Gm was going to sell the BOLT to everyonebefore
the Bolt went into production, and doing an about-face (changing thesales
rules) when the Bolt did go into production to favor GM's needs (notthe
consumer's), smells of compliance car, and does not bode well for howmuch the
consumer feels GM will have their back (care about the consumer).Yet, as I have
posted, GM can be manipulated to free some Bolt EVs up forDonald's buddies, and
to any other region that is beneficial to GM (Bolts toNYC, +more).I posted a
news item that stated t
hat Canadians could register to buy a BoltEV, but actual deliveries to
Canadians would be much later.I have to let you all know, that there were many
GM -pr- noise items Ipassed on (did not post to the evdl), that were only GM
investmentpromotional, but later were found to be a (non-committal) commitment
toproduce 200+mi Bolt EVs. This was much the same with the European version
ofthe Bolt: Opel Ampera-e. Now that the Bolt is in production, GM feelshappier
holding back on its Bolt EV sales, than satisfying consumer demand(another
point defining a compliance car).IMO as a future production EV buyer is, what
defines a compliance car hasseveral dependencies (there will be several things
to look at & to decideon). Not what items are important to an automaker, but
what items areimportant to the EV owner& driver.Much has changed since 2010,
but for a long time, the Fiat 500e, Ford FocusElectric, GM's Chevy Spark EV,
Smart ED, and several other EVs, were aproduct that could be leased or pu
rchased, but with only a minimal effortput into the EV's use, or upgrades each
year by the manufacturer (i.e.: itisn't until now that Ford's next-gen Focus EV
will offer L3 DC charging,etc.). Upgrades that the production EV leaders (i.e.:
Leaf, etc.) werealready offering. So, a compliance car does not make an effort
to keep upwith the competition, akin (like) what is done with ice sales.Now
that Spark EV is set to end production because the Bolt EV is itsreplacement,
where does that leave Spark EV owners? How long will their GMsupport last, and
will the cost of that support go up over time as dealersmay consider Spark EV
an out-of-date antique.Buying a production EV meant you were locked into no
support if you madeupgrades yourself. Anyone buying a used 2012 Leaf with only
a L2-3kWon-board charger and no L3 DC port means you are stuck (no
upgradespossible). If the upgrades the consumer wants is not offered in next
year'smodel (like what the i-Miev did, same product year year), the c
onsumer isstuck between a rock and an hard place to get an EV that fits their
needs(Today, if you can not afford a Tesla, then a Leaf is your only
up-to-dateproduction EV choice).Time will tell how many GM Bolt EVs are
produced and sold to the public yearafter year (that excludes the ones made and
sold to Lyft). And 'if' GM doesregular updates to each year's model (same as
they do for their ice models). Perhaps that is a stumbling point the media does
not see nor dwell on:automakers go out of their way to offer an 'improved'
model for next year asan incentive to encourage sales. Automakers with a
compliance car do notoffer such annual improvements.? So, how do you define
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