It is hard to knock a battery with nearly infinite cycles. Even the theoretical possibility means incredible potential. Just because the EV wears out, does not mean the battery is not worth having - the next 50 generations would not have to reproduce or recycle that battery.
If you get to amortize a fixed cost for a very long time, it becomes nearly cost free in a very real sense. But it you insist on viewing it only in a personal time frame you miss out on something awesome on a racial time scale That said, I doubt all lab cell constructions until they become manufacturable. Until that point they are useless trivia. I hope someone backrolls this until it is clearly out of any realm of possibility. On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:52 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV < [email protected]> wrote: > On 15 Oct 2016 at 6:14, Mark Abramowitz via EV wrote: > > > If you assume that the amount of gold used is the same as amount of > silver > > used (it's actually much less), then using gold is actually *cheaper* > than > > using silver if the battery lasts 400 times longer > > True, but maybe immaterial for EV use. A 200,000 cycle battery would power > a 200 mile per charge EV for 40 million miles. At 20,000 miles per year, > that's 2000 years of driving. You could pass your EV (or at least its > battery) down through 60 or so generations. Talk about gold as a family > heirloom! > > If I read it right, the original article seems to be saying that the gold > isn't active material in the battery (which figures), but rather a carrier > of the active material. Thus it's not really comparable to a silver-zinc > battery. > > It also says that the amount of gold used is "minuscule," but "that would > still make these batteries be expensive to manufacture." It also > postulates > that some cheaper metal might work too. > > IF this battery design pans out, and I'm sure it has a LONG way to go > before > it will ever be scaled up for production, it seems like the kind of battery > that NASA would use. But it would in theory have such a long cycle life > (again IF it pans out) that it would far outlast any device it powered, so > I > just don't know what its application would be. IBesides, I suspect that > battery manufacturers would prefer to make batteries that have to be > replaced now and again. :-( > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not > reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my > email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/ > group/NEDRA) > > -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Mobile and Google Phone [email protected] <[email protected]> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161016/c71d4db5/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
