The only thing I ever heard was on EVTV. Jack bought a smart EV that had no battery and tried to buy one. He mailed a letter to the head of smart USA and they said they would sell him a battery for 12,100. I think in a later video he tried to buy one but they never did sell him one. So he asked them for the CAN messages so he could build his own and they said that was proprietary. It is about 8:30 on the video.
It's the October 17, 2014 video Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 1, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Mark Hanson via EV <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Folks, > > > > I didn't get a response on the service manual or where to get a battery for > the Smart ED 2013 - 2015 (used Smart) so I'm thinking maybe I should buy > something else (since the shop manuals/batteries are made of Unobtanium). > I Googled Service manuals for the Mitsubishi IMIev and Chevy Spark; were > available online like the Leaf. It also looked like you could monitor > individual battery voltages, not sure if you can do that with the Smart ED. > It looks like Mercedes doesn't want to sell any electric Smart ED's ($25K > for a battery replacement and no Service Manuals available.) The Smart also > wants $80 per month battery rental that the other EV's don't require. I > found from EVwest.com that they have 57V Tesla battery replacement modules > for $1k for the 2013 Smart only, 2014 on is the Deutsche ACCUmotive for $25K > replacement. So maybe I should buy that with a Smart 2013? Sounds like > that may be the only serviceable Smart unless buying two wrecked one's to > combine parts when the cells start to crap out. Or maybe like on > EValbum.com convert one from gas like another guy did on an 05' model - but > it would be nice to have regen. > > > > From: Mark Hanson [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2016 7:45 PM > To: '[email protected]' > Subject: RE: 2014 Smart ED Service Manual Help > > > > > > > > Hi Folks, > > > > I was thinking of buying a 2014 Smart ED but I can't find a service > manual/schematics, paid $60 to www.smarttekinfo.com and just a few > pamphlets, marketing fluff. I tried for about $15 www.ALLDATAdiy.com with > similar results. Contacting/emailing Smart just got marketing & $80/mo > battery rental info. I have a Leaf currently and it was easy to > download/print the 3" thick shop manual on battery/charging/traction > controls/schematics but no dice with Smart. When I called the local > Mercedes dealer they wanted $25K for a battery replacement at the typical > 60K miles (the Leaf is $5.5K for a battery replacement). > > > > So is the Smart ED a throw-away car that you can't service? Does anyone > know where to get a *service/shop manual* so I can feel comfortable > servicing like my Leaf? Does anyone know where to by *battery cells* or > pack for a Smart ED? > > > > The local Mercedes dealer said they won't bother with Smarts maybe why their > annual sales were 2K and the Leaf was 20K last year. It looks like on > www.batteryuniversity.com that the Volt, Leaf and Smart ED are all NMC > (Nickel Manganese Cobalt cathode with a lithium electrolyte and a graphite > anode) so should have about 60k miles life similar to LiFePO4. The Smart ED > warranty is 4 years 48K miles Smart said without paying $80 battery rent per > month "battery assurance plan" nonsense. > > > > I also use LeafSpy but didn't see info app like that for the Smart ED. I'd > like to replace my electric Ghia www.evalbum.com/4346 soon when it needs $8k > batteries with a $8k 2014 Smart or similar small commuter car to make my 48 > miles round trip to work. > > > > Have a renewable energy day, > > > > Mark > > > > Mark E. Hanson > > 184 Vista Lane > > Fincastle, VA 24090 > > 540-473-1248 phone & FAX, 540-816-0812 cell > > REEVA: community service RE & EV project club > > Website: www.REEVAdiy.org (See Project Gallery) > > UL Certified PV Installer > > My RE&EV Circuits: www.EVDL.org/lib/mh > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20161001/ba980833/attachment.htm> > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
