There actually are "USB Battery Banks" that claim their 12V output is
enough to jump a car. I expect that they will need you to connect it for
several minutes to slowly recharge your 12V battery, since these devices
work by boosting the single 3.7V cell inside to whatever output is
needed (5V or 12V) so it cannot be more than a few Amps, but after
several minutes the battery may have regained sufficient energy to crank
once and that is all most modern ICE cars need.
One example of this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stanley/311594792517

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-----Original Message-----
From: EV [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Meier via
EV
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 5:33 PM
To: Electric Vehicle Discussion List
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Pop-starting a stick shift?

Most kids carry a 5V 2A+ usb battery. If only it had a 12v port it might
be enough to get the car to fire with a push. How many amps does a
'dead' ICEv need to power up? 5V to 12v boost converters are pretty
cheap. They would only need to run for a few minutes. 
It would be funnier to strap a 100w+ PV panel onto the hood jumpered in,
then push start.


-- 
-Chris

On August 18, 2016 9:27:45 AM CDT, Robert Bruninga via EV
<[email protected]> wrote:
>This is the only car group I know.  So pardon the off-topic post.
>
>
>
>A young kid with a minicooper flagged me down to jump start his car.  I
>told him, I'd be happy to if he could figure out how to use my 400V
>pack....
>
>
>
>Then I asked, well, have you tried just rolling it and popping the
>clutch
>to get it started.  He looked at me with blank stare.  I smugly said,
>sure,
>it's a stick shift, so we just get it rolling and pop the clutch and it
>will start.
>
>
>
>It wouldn't.  Then I began to realize, that all the cars I have done
>this
>with in the past DID NOT HAVE ANY CPU's in them.  IE, all you have to
>do is
>get a spark, not power up and entire network of computers before the
>motor
>will even begin to consider the "starting process".
>
>
>
>So is this true?  That we can no longer pop-start a modern car with a
>dead
>battery?
>
>
>
>My son (too cheap to buy a new battery) still does it frequently with
>his
>pre-cpu Geo-Tracker, in fact we just did it last week.
>
>
>
>I'm just too old for all these newfangled hurdles...
>
>
>
>Bob
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