>You west coast folks with EVs everywhere may not know what it's like here in the midwest. Around here, owning ANY kind of EV is unusual and draws notice. Here in NE Ohio, I may see a Leaf a few times a YEAR. I have yet to see a Tesla on the road or in a parking lot.<
So, any ol' EV will do? That EVangel (Brian Kent) trying to EV-educate the public and legislators could show up in a 1990's Ford Ranger Electric and get his point across by showing what is not current/up-to-date? ... No. That rationalization is moot. There are so few EVs where you are because where you are is not one of the few out of 50 U.S. states that use CARB's mandate as a template (automakers do not have to try hard in your area). Because you do not 'see' the EVs, that is also a moot rationalization for not wanting that EVangel to show-up in a more affordable, up-to-date, 200mi production EV. Besides, if you read the news item, he said he was doing 200 miles a day. So, a 200mi EV would be perfect for him. Instead of charging twice on L2-6kW, he would plugin once for a 9+hour L2-6kW charge. The people that EVangel will talk to will vary from the EV-clueless to the somewhat-EV-knowledgeable. If they saw his EV was old (a Ranger EV), or expensive (MBenz EV), or that it does not compare with the 200mi GM Bolt or Tesla-3 EVs which are more affordable, ... they will discount what the EVangel is pushing. Meaning what EV he uses is an example that will either help, or hinder his EVangel efforts. Your area's waiting until later, later, later to begin thinking EVs are a viable transportation choice does put locations like yours behind the curve. But on the other hand if the-powers-that-be pay-attention to not make the mistakes West-coasters have made, they can $ave in the long run. Like putting in L2 at a locations where drivers will want to stay for a couple hours and spend money (not city hall, nor install a lot of L2 all in one area just for bragging-rights). Other areas of the world laugh at us when they know of the wasteful ways L2 EVSE installations have been squandered (too many in one area, and huge gaps/not enough to get to the next city). In Europe there are several areas that did their homework (thinking this through) and first installed contiguous EVSE (so that drivers could get from point A to B), and later added more EVSE as businesses desired them for EV-tourism. New Zealand and Australia are coming up fast on EVs. They (for the most part) know not to do the dumb things we (the U.S.) have and are doing. Also, there needs to be an up-shift in public EVSE from 6kW to 10kW. It would be best if everyone changed to a new universal coupler standard that uses 3-phase (like Tesla's) power, but that isn't going to happen. For now, I would like to see all the production EVs offer a 10KW on-board charger option, and all the public L2-6kW EVSE be updated to 10kW. This is a small change and not that hard nor costly to do. Canadian EVSE company Sun Country has 60A and 100A L2 EVSE installed as public EVSE, see https://suncountryhighway.com/en/item/chargerstore#!/Level-II-evCHARGERS/c/11425360/offset=0&sort=addedTimeDesc Their EVSE hardware is re-branded ClipperCreek, but they actually installed high current L2 EVSE out at public locations. Of course, only Tesla EVs can use them (via a j1772 adaptor) because all other EV makers still only offer 3kW or 6kW on-board chargers. Packs are growing in kWhrs, so chargers and EVSE should grow in kW output too. Those that read all the links I provided in my original post would know that the EVangel has KOA RV parks sponsorship. So his interest in getting the full 10kW power from their 14-50 240VAC 50A RV outlet is likely why he is so keen on L2 10kW. I have had an update from the company I previously contacted about using the CHAdeMO port to recharge at a higher rate and not have-to tear into the production EV wiring, etc. They offer both a 10kW and a 12kW solution: http://www.electway.net/product/10kW_portable_CHAdeMO_fast_DC_charger.html http://www.electway.net/product/12KW_Portable_Fast_DC_Charger_for_Electric_car.html The 10kW CHAdeMO adaptor would require a 208 to 240VAC 50A source (like a KOA RV park's outlet). The 12kW would require much more, but (again) if Tony Williams could be persuaded to work with the EVangel, they might make a 12kW source coming from two 10kW 14-50 50A RV outlets, or j1772 6kW couplers. For EVLN EV-newswire posts use: http://evdl.org/evln/ {brucedp.150m.com} -- View this message in context: http://electric-vehicle-discussion-list.413529.n4.nabble.com/L2-across-USA-tripper-might-want-to-rethink-his-2nd-trip-EV-tp4682628p4682646.html Sent from the Electric Vehicle Discussion List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
