From: Peri Hartman via EV <[email protected]>To: "David Nelson"
<[email protected]>, brucedp5 <[email protected]>, "Electric
Vehicle Discussion List" <[email protected]>Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old
packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help smooth out the grid,
+moreDate: 5/29/16, 12:52 PM
I definitely would like to see incentives for installing "depleted"
batteries as solar and wind backup.
We're at a point in time where we can promote both wind and solar
while
winding down coal and gas power generation. Clearly, before we can
retire all mined-resource power generation (primarily coal, gas,
nuclear), we need ways to store power for times when wind and solar
don't generate enough.
Soon, we will begin to see a flood of depleted batteries from EVs.
With
incentives, the price offered for these used batteries would be
higher,
helping to lift the value of used EVs and increasing the demand for
new
EVs while at the same time helping to build our wind and solar
infrastructure.
In other words, right now, the need for utility level battery storage
is
low. But, gradually, as we retire coal & other plants, we can be
building utility battery storage and boosting EV production and sales.
The sooner, the better, in my opinion.
Peri
------ Original Message ------
From: "David Nelson via EV" <[email protected]>
To: "brucedp5" <[email protected]>; "Electric Vehicle Discussion
List" <[email protected]>
Sent: 29-May-16 12:43:01 PM
Subject: Re: [EVDL] Old packs as powerwalls @L3 EVSE sites to help
smooth out the grid, +more
>On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 1:46 AM, brucedp5 via EV <[email protected]>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Why aren't they installing these power-walls at well used L3 EVSE
>>stations?
>> Is there a major utility complaint that highly used L3 EVSE puts a
>>high
>> demand on the grid?
>> That the EV's power demand during peak HVAC power periods are
counter
>> productive?
>>
>> I think that a prime candidate is this L3 station at Arlington City
>>Hall,
>OR (http://api.plugshare.com/view/location/47270). It is in a
"desert"
>of
>charging stations along I-84 and looking at the comments it is the
>power
>company that is charging too much. Too bad the owner just doesn't put
>the
>cost to charge to what it would cost for the power, at least
initially.
>
>Even a battery unit that didn't have enough to fully charge a car
could
>be
>used in combination with the grid where the grid is used to just
below
>the
>demand charge threshold and the battery supplying the rest. When the
>car
>stops charging the battery unit would charge back up in anticipation
of
>the
>next vehicle.
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