On 5 Feb 2016 at 15:17, Peri Hartman via EV wrote:

> I was considering buying an emergency flashlight that stays plugged in
> all the time ... I decided not to - until the Chinese develop a better
> reputation for putting a BMS in their lithium ion products. 

For a cheap gadget like that (or even a small low-range EV) a safer and more 
economical battery, though you'd have to mind disposal, would be NiCd.  You 
can charge NiCd at a low rate pretty much forever.  

I suppose you could also use NiMH, but I don't think they withstand that 
kind of charging as well.

Some years ago I bought some cheap made-in-Taiwan crank-dynamo flashlights 
from the dollar store.  I gave away a few as gifts, and kept a couple.  

I didn't notice until I got them home that the blister card boasted that 
they had lithium batteries.  I'm sure they had no BMS whatsoever.  They 
started obviously losing capacity within weeks, and within a year or two 
they were storing no energy at all.  They'd light up only if I kept cranking 
them.

At least they didn't catch fire.  I doubt that I could put that much energy 
into them by cranking, though.

I still have them on a shelf in the basement.  Maybe one day I'll bust them 
open and see if I can fit NiCd cells into them.

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
EVDL Administrator

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