" It has no future that I can see." If everything stays the same except legislation, maybe. But the tech will improve a lot in 10 years.
It is possible that net metering will go away, or it will be unbalanced and they pay less for the owner generaed power (Duke proposed to the rate commision here in NC to pay $0.02/ kWh and to charge $0.11 / kWh), but it didn't fly. The system of renewable energy credits helps hold that back. Also people twist the cost of solar, owner generated power for their own needs. For sure the power I make causes no trouble at all for Duke Progress, it is different of oreders of magnitude more people start doing it. Duke benefits from the power generation I offset, enough of us with residential PV reduces their need to build a nuke or some other fossil fueled plant. There is large and valid cost saving in saving generated waste. They pretty much get a free ride, stockpiling heavy water until it reaches emergency proportions and the tax payers deal with it. Or the ash pits ruin the aquifer and nothing much is done to mitigate except on the tax payers buck. You are also assuming that we will not turn away from fossil fuels. Anyway, I am more opitimistic than you are. There is money to be made with renewable energy, and Duke PRogress is into it big time. It is not going away to be sure. I think they will end up competing with storage systems in residential applications. Batteries will get better as their chemistries and production gets better. Making panels is described as no harder than making drywall. I think the utilies can price themselves out of the market if they go to far. On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:15 PM, EVDL Administrator via EV < ev@lists.evdl.org> wrote: > On 18 Jan 2016 at 10:28, Robert Bruninga via EV wrote: > > > > I'm in no hurry to start the EV project [until after I] > > > ... add more PV panels and batteries so I can go off grid, > > > > And why on earth do that? ... . It makes no sense when storage in > > the grid is basically free (in good Net-metered states). > > The grid is "free storage" for now in some areas, but I predict that net > metering will be dead in 10 years. Powerful and well connnected > (politically, not electrically) people don't like it, and they have state > legislatures in their pockets. Think about Reagan ripping the Carter PVs > off the White House roof in 1980, and you'll have the right idea. > > People with existing systems may be grandfathered in, but will most likely > find themselves getting a pittance for the energy they make, while they pay > full retail for what they draw back out for charging the EV. This is > already happening in some states. > > If you want to drive on sunshine, you can expect to need batteries to store > your energy in the future. I for one would not buy a grid intertie system > here in the US today. It has no future that I can see. > > David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA > EVDL Administrator > > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > EVDL Information: http://www.evdl.org/help/ > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > Note: mail sent to "evpost" and "etpost" addresses will not > reach me. To send a private message, please obtain my > email address from the webpage http://www.evdl.org/help/ . > = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = > > > _______________________________________________ > UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub > http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org > Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ > Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA ( > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA) > > -- To invent, you need a good imagination and a pile of junk. Thomas A. Edison <http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/t/thomasaed125362.html> A public-opinion poll is no substitute for thought. *Warren Buffet* Michael E. Ross (919) 585-6737 Land (919) 576-0824 <https://www.google.com/voice/b/0?pli=1#phones> Google Phone (919) 600-2892 Cell michael.e.r...@gmail.com <michael.e.r...@gmail.com> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.evdl.org/private.cgi/ev-evdl.org/attachments/20160118/976dddb7/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE: http://www.evdl.org/help/index.html#usub http://lists.evdl.org/listinfo.cgi/ev-evdl.org Read EVAngel's EV News at http://evdl.org/evln/ Please discuss EV drag racing at NEDRA (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NEDRA)
