"lithium batteries without BMSes never catch fire?"

There has to be more to that statement for it to possibly ring true.

If you have a Lithium pack keep charging beyond 100% SOC it will likely
catch fire.  Every erg past 100% goes to making heat. Even a trickle is
bad. PbSO4 safely survive this. Li ion not at all.  I am pretty sure I
heard this from Jeff Dahn.  I never heard RIckard say anything contrary,
though I have quit watching his vids for some time.

But Jack is pretty savvy and knows this. Mis-speaking, misreading and
mis-listening are always possibilities.

EV Werks had a business (among other things) bottom balancing
packs and sealing them up. Those were not meant to be operated with no
battery management at all. That BB operation  is a pretty manual operation
not normal battery management.. That is pure guess work.  Even a smart
drunk guy in yellow shows  or his minions can forget to turn off something
when it is needed.  Most likely some sort of inattention was at work.



On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 5:45 AM, EVDL Administrator via EV <[email protected]
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> Not to cause controversy, but do I recall right that Jack Rickard is one of
> the guys who've said that lithium batteries without BMSes never catch fire?
> Or was that someone else?
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> Certainly that's a claim I've heard, on the EVDL and elsewhere.
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