To add to David's point:
Last Superbowl had an add from one of the "truck" manufacturers,
showing side-by side two scenes:
Young man standing next to their new model "manly" (oversized) truck
and the same young man standing next to a bland family sedan (which
could have been an EV).
Caption: Who do you find sexier?
It had nothing to do with the fact that the sedan is the smarter
choice in almost all cases of passenger transport, but the
advertisers know that people want a certain image and they play
on that image, allowing them to sell the vehicles that make them
the most money, not the vehicles that are best for their customers.

That is the power of advertising *and* greed.

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Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [EVDL] EVLN: GM Would Be Smart To Launch An e-Pickup TruckBefore 
Tesla

On 24 Oct 2015 at 6:44, dovepa via EV wrote:

> No one creates a market IMO.

Apologies for going a bit off topic here, but it's to make a point.

I'm not an economist so maybe I have my terminology wrong.  I don't know that 
it was actually "creating a market," but consider what the big automakers did 
in promoting trucks and SUVs.  

Until the 1980s, pickup trucks were for craftsmen and farmers.  The poor 
adolescent rural kid who had to drive his date to the dance in his dad's pickup 
truck was a standing joke.  Meanwhile, SUVs (Jeep, IH Scout, Land Rover, Nissan 
Patrol, Toyota Land Cruiser) were noisy and rode rough; they were mostly for 
sportsmen.  

Detroit wasn't happy.  They made big profits on big, gas hungry cars, but those 
cars were subject to the US "gas guzzler" tax, which hurt sales.  
They'd even had to downsize the Cadillac and Lincoln.

Then they hit on the idea of pushing big, gas-hungry TRUCKS, which weren't 
subject to the gas guzzler tax because they were supposedly work vehicles.

IIRC Dodge was one of the first to "civilize" a pickup truck with a fancier 
interior, softer springs, and noise proofing.  (They also made a pickup with a 
vinyl roof at one time!)  There was a long line of ads showing how trucks and 
SUVs could fit into a suburban lifestyle.  And what do you know - truck sales 
took off.  Today the top selling vehicles are often trucks.  That's the power 
of advertising.

So IF the automakers truly wanted to create demand for EVs (which as I say may 
not be the same thing as "creating a market"), either passenger car or truck, 
they know how to do it.  But right now there's no incentive for them to do so.  

It's interesting to contemplate though.  What if building their compliance EVs 
drove down EV component prices to the point where they were making MORE profit 
on EVs than on ICEVs?

David Roden - Akron, Ohio, USA
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