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On 06/29/2015 09:08 AM, Matt Lacey via EV wrote:

>> For the case of like a 60 volts to 125 volts for a traction pack
>> for like a scooter.. why do some choose leaf cells ? seems like
>> you have to get a more specialised/ costly BMS like orion. I've
>> seen youtube about Vectrix conversions using both. leaf cells are
>> american  made ? do they have more cycles or power density ?

I decided to use Nissan Leaf modules for my 120 volt S-10 truck for
the following reasons:

 -Low cost availability of used cells - I can purchase a totaled
Nissan Leaf and (with some elbow grease) remove a pack of used cells
that are in very good condition for significantly less than I can
purchase new prismatic cells.

*This was the biggest deciding factor...I simply couldn't afford to
spend enough to buy a 24 kWh pack without buying it used.*

 -Possibly higher quality - Because I know that Nissan has handled the
quality control and bulk purchasing for me, I am guaranteed a certain
(automobile engineering) level of quality and regularity between modules.

 -Possibly longer life (for similar reasons to above...) By getting
modules from a 2013 battery I think I am getting the benefits of
Nissan's early experimentation.

 -Nice format - I like the general format and packaging of the modules.

 -Continued availability - If I need to replace a module, or even the
whole pack, I expect that there will continue to be easy availability
of replacement modules in the same form factor, and possibly with even
better capacity in the future due to the large number of Nissan Leaf's
on the road today.

For my high amperage/relatively lower voltage (small pickup truck)
application the 60 AH capacity is the only real downside. I'd prefer
180-200 Ah modules, so I am having to put them in parallel sets of 3.
But for a scooter or car with a high voltage controller/motor, you can
just put them in series like Nissan does.

I'm using MiniBMS, which is about as cheap as you can get, so the BMS
wasn't a big issue for me.

Jay
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